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Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?

I'm considering moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
14 (25.9%)
I'm considering making aliya due to recent events
10 (18.5%)
I will be moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
0 (0%)
I will be making aliya due to recent events
1 (1.9%)
No plans to move anywhere
29 (53.7%)

Total Members Voted: 51

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2020, 12:20:45 AM »
And their reasoning?

For me there are 2 things that keep me put. One is my kids education and the other is being next to the place I call home. While the former might change as my kids grow (still many years in the works) I don't see the other reason changing. Maybe if we're still in golus and I'm no longer able to live independently, I would move, but other than that I can't think of a move happening.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2020, 12:24:28 AM »
And their reasoning?

For me there are 2 things that keep me put. One is my kids education and the other is being next to the place I call home. While the former might change as my kids grow (still many years in the works) I don't see the other reason changing. Maybe if we're still in golus and I'm no longer able to live independently, I would move, but other than that I can't think of a move happening.
I haven't asked directly, but between the COVID lockdown in a small space without a yard and the rioting and the fireworks, the past few months have likely taken a toll on their well-being. I'd imagine the fear of what's next and calls for police defunding are also part of it.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2020, 12:27:24 AM »
I haven't asked directly, but between the COVID lockdown in a small space without a yard and the rioting and the fireworks, the past few months have likely taken a toll on their well-being. I'd imagine the fear of what's next and calls for police defunding are also part of it.
And what made him look at CLE in particular?

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2020, 12:32:48 AM »
CoL as a WFH employee.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2020, 09:20:17 AM »
And their reasoning?

For me there are 2 things that keep me put. One is my kids education and the other is being next to the place I call home. While the former might change as my kids grow (still many years in the works) I don't see the other reason changing. Maybe if we're still in golus and I'm no longer able to live independently, I would move, but other than that I can't think of a move happening.
Are you suggesting that kids can't get a proper education outside of NY?

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2020, 11:26:14 AM »
Are you suggesting that kids can't get a proper education outside of NY?
It is tough to find elementary schools outside of NYC that don't teach secular studies 🙈
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2020, 11:27:20 AM »
Are you suggesting that kids can't get a proper education outside of NY?

Never did. But I'm extremely happy with my kids schools (and there are definitely more options here) so why would I want to try anything else.

Though I'm sure EY has plenty of education options. And this thread is about making aliya vs staying put.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2020, 11:27:47 AM »
It is tough to find elementary schools outside of NYC that don't teach secular studies 🙈

But plenty of those in EY.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2020, 04:00:31 PM »
Option of moving to a different country?
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2020, 08:19:11 AM »
DDFers donít take buses so we have another impediment to Aliyah :)

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2020, 03:09:27 PM »
Easier to live among your own, pray, work and a hundred other things you do everyday.
How about this. Is it easier to raise a child as a religious Jew in the US or Israel.

Israel has to be easier religiously, financially prob the USA

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2020, 03:12:55 PM »
Israel has to be easier religiously, financially prob the USA
Religiously?
What about trying to draft chareidi buchrim? We donít have that issue in the USA
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But itís definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2020, 03:37:58 PM »
Religiously?
What about trying to draft chareidi buchrim? We donít have that issue in the USA
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But itís definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others

if they learn they shouldnt have a problem

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2020, 04:16:38 PM »
Religiously?
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But itís definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others
Im speaking of my own experience and some of my friends, i think that in Israel is easier to go OTD, as Rabbi Rottenberg told me before i went to yeshiva there that the greater the kedusha the greater the temuah and koach hatumah is always 1 step ahead.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2020, 05:02:22 PM »
DDFers donít take buses so we have another impediment to Aliyah :)

Um, what? Typical DDFer flies first class and then takes the subway and connects to the bus to get to the PHP