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Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?

I'm considering moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
14 (23.7%)
I'm considering making aliya due to recent events
11 (18.6%)
I will be moving elsewhere in the US due to recent events
1 (1.7%)
I will be making aliya due to recent events
1 (1.7%)
No plans to move anywhere
32 (54.2%)

Total Members Voted: 56

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2020, 03:09:27 PM »
Easier to live among your own, pray, work and a hundred other things you do everyday.
How about this. Is it easier to raise a child as a religious Jew in the US or Israel.

Israel has to be easier religiously, financially prob the USA

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2020, 03:12:55 PM »
Israel has to be easier religiously, financially prob the USA
Religiously?
What about trying to draft chareidi buchrim? We don’t have that issue in the USA
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But it’s definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2020, 03:37:58 PM »
Religiously?
What about trying to draft chareidi buchrim? We don’t have that issue in the USA
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But it’s definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others

if they learn they shouldnt have a problem

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2020, 04:16:38 PM »
Religiously?
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But it’s definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others
Im speaking of my own experience and some of my friends, i think that in Israel is easier to go OTD, as Rabbi Rottenberg told me before i went to yeshiva there that the greater the kedusha the greater the temuah and koach hatumah is always 1 step ahead.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2020, 05:02:22 PM »
DDFers don’t take buses so we have another impediment to Aliyah :)

Um, what? Typical DDFer flies first class and then takes the subway and connects to the bus to get to the PHP

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2020, 05:06:12 PM »
Um, what? Typical DDFer flies first class and then takes the subway and connects to the bus to get to the PHP
Or rents a car + gets free uber from referral credit.

I think he means on a regular basis
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2020, 06:21:27 PM »
if they learn they shouldnt have a problem
This is always true about everything
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2020, 08:43:19 PM »
Religiously?
What about trying to draft chareidi buchrim? We don’t have that issue in the USA
As far as off the derech, im not sure which is better. But it’s definitely an issue in Israel, in some communities more than others
Could we leave Satmar out of this? We're talking about facts here. I don't think anyone who was sitting and learning had issues with the draft.

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2020, 11:12:28 PM »
Could we leave Satmar out of this? We're talking about facts here. I don't think anyone who was sitting and learning had issues with the draft.
And what's with someone that that is not "fit' to learn the whole day?

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2020, 07:52:28 AM »
And what's with someone that that is not "fit' to learn the whole day?
That's an issue with Chareidi lifestyle in EY in general. :)

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2020, 01:38:40 PM »
Chasidish Kehila opening in FL.

Fill out the form and send it back, if you have an interest in it.

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2020, 01:48:30 PM »
Chasidish Kehila opening in FL.

Fill out the form and send it back, if you have an interest in it.
This belongs in the "Things that haven't aged well" thread.

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2020, 01:50:33 PM »
Chasidish Kehila opening in FL.

Fill out the form and send it back, if you have an interest in it.

Do you have any more info on this?
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2020, 01:55:01 PM »
This belongs in the "Things that haven't aged well" thread.

Nah, it's not about the virus spread, it's about how NY Jews feel they were treated during the pandemic so far, both on a statewide regulatory level and on a community level (singled out). It's not a brand new movement. There's been chatter for the better part of a decade about building a large kehillah, mainly because of financial and political benefits. It just seems to have resurfaced now.
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2020, 01:58:34 PM »
Do you have any more info on this?
Dont know too much, I think the dream is for Tampa.
Its Shloimy Taussig's  (the singer/Rebbe) wife who is busy with this
So far around 500 families sent in the questionnaire.
Dont know more than this..

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2020, 02:13:58 PM »
Chasidish Kehila opening in FL.

Fill out the form and send it back, if you have an interest in it.

Why Florida of all places?

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2020, 02:20:21 PM »
Why Florida of all places?
Cheap housing
Low property tax (at least when compared to NY)
No income Tax
School choice
Warmer winter weather
Yet not too far from NY.

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2020, 02:21:06 PM »
Why Florida of all places?
I can think of one massive reason (which probably isn’t part of their agenda)- swing state
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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2020, 02:24:57 PM »
I can think of one massive reason (which probably isn’t part of their agenda)- swing state
I actually believe this is a valid point.
Without getting too much into politics and derail the subject..
I think we dont belong anymore in democratic states like NY, yet a RED state can be bad too. So FL as a swing state may be just perfect

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Re: Have Recent Events Made You Consider Moving Or Making Aliya?
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2020, 02:31:38 PM »
Warmer winter weather
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