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They are certified Kosher from the local Rabbanut. (Ein Bokek)
The meat is NOT Glatt.
The chicken is Rabbanut Mehadrin.
The cooking is Bishul Yisrael according to the Rema, not the Beit Yosef.
The vegetables are Gush Katif. The cabbage is NOT.

The Mashgiach says, the hard cheeses are not Mehadrin.

Breakfast:
- Breads, pastries, cakes - parbaked or raw frozen , Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Packaged yogurts and puddings - some are B"datz . Rubin, but be careful some could be cholov nochri, check packaging
- Grapefruit and Orange Juice from Spout - PriMor ,Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Hard Round Cheeses on cutting board- Cholov Nochri
- Gvina Levana, cottage cheese - .....................
- Feta, Bulgarian Cheeses - He claims Belz
- Some type of butter spread- some are cholov nochri
- Fish- He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....), but its usually just herring and mackarel
- Tuna - He says B"datz, but there is usually some type of leafy veggie in there i.e. parsley
- Instant Coffee Machine - Cholov Yisroel of some rabbi in Ashkelon
- Espresso Station - Milk is usually Mehadrin Tnuva, you can look at the bag (Yes milk comes in a 5 gallon bag)
- Hot Stations- Not really sure, they serve dinner there also which is fleishig, I'm guessing they switch the stations, but i wouldn't....
- Produce - He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....)
- Cereals- some are cholov nochri


Lounge:
Basically the same cakes and fruits as breakfast.

Mashgiach's number 050-892-2728
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #220 on: December 18, 2012, 03:07:27 AM »
 
not necessarily. SPG will tell you its fine and free of charge, but the hotel will try and charge you, a little arguing will get you done, or do it yourself, done them all.
are you suggesting its a starwood rule to provide cots free of charge?  :o

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #221 on: December 18, 2012, 03:12:37 AM »
Actually, are we referring to an extra cot bed, or baby crib? I am referring to baby crib aka cot.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #222 on: December 18, 2012, 03:13:57 AM »
charging for a cot is common practice at hotels worlwide

Did you read the second half of what I wrote?

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #223 on: December 18, 2012, 03:15:17 AM »
Did you read the second half of what I wrote?
i did

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #224 on: December 18, 2012, 03:16:24 AM »
Actually, are we referring to an extra cot bed, or baby crib? I am referring to baby crib aka cot.
ok, you saved yourself, ime though, never has a hotel tried to charge for a baby crib

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #225 on: December 18, 2012, 03:17:07 AM »

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #226 on: December 18, 2012, 03:19:56 AM »
ok, you saved yourself, ime though, never has a hotel tried to charge for a baby crib
it's for the second one, that they tried their luck.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #227 on: December 18, 2012, 03:21:44 AM »
And?
the hotel never guaranteed anyhting, rather they would try to accommodate. (besides the fact that he knew coming in he would need cots as he had 6 in his party with 2 rooms, he didnt know that the couch was convertible)

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #228 on: December 18, 2012, 03:22:58 AM »
it's for the second one, that they tried their luck.
i understood that, i was just relaying my experience

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #229 on: December 18, 2012, 03:35:11 AM »
the hotel never guaranteed anyhting, rather they would try to accommodate. (besides the fact that he knew coming in he would need cots as he had 6 in his party with 2 rooms, he didnt know that the couch was convertible)

True, but they apparently didn't try hard enough; rather, they tried to "upsell" him with TWO cots when two beds + sofa would have sufficed. They didn't even tell him about the sofa, not even once he was there!

The ethics thread is about questions where technically and legally, the person or entity is right; but morally, they should not have done what they did.

So that brings about the question: is it ethical for a hotel to try to not only try to sell someone a cot instead of apologizing for not trying to accomodate the advance request of two beds, but to try to sell someone a SECOND cot despite knowing that virtually every room in the hotel has a sofa bed? And to charge such a fortune for each cot, to boot?

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #230 on: December 18, 2012, 03:42:59 AM »
what belongs in the ethics thread is if at the end of the day there were never guarantees of twin beds and the hotel charges for a cot, whether you can take it yourself

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #231 on: December 18, 2012, 03:48:44 AM »
what belongs in the ethics thread is if at the end of the day there were never guarantees of twin beds and the hotel charges for a cot, whether you can take it yourself

Fine, so both questions belong there. :)

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #232 on: December 19, 2012, 02:29:16 PM »
Is it a fact that when one cancels it becomes immediately available to book again?

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #233 on: December 19, 2012, 03:29:48 PM »
Is it a fact that when one cancels it becomes immediately available to book again?

No, but mostly

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #234 on: December 20, 2012, 07:26:08 AM »
is anyone going to be there this shabbos? or know of someone going?

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #235 on: December 20, 2012, 10:16:43 AM »
what belongs in the ethics thread is if at the end of the day there were never guarantees of twin beds and the hotel charges for a cot, whether you can take it yourself

Well anyway, I'm quite flattered that my experience prompted such an insightful eithical discussion ;) Hopefully we've all gained something or or other ........

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #236 on: December 20, 2012, 10:22:14 AM »
thanks milechazzer.
what do you say overall about you stay?
do you think its worth staying there instead of JM? is it a long comute?

Overall, it was worth the 3k points, and a nice 1nt getaway from JM, but I definitely wouldn't stay there instead of JM. The hotel has very nice "common areas" and facilities, but the rooms can be filthy, poorly maintained and smelly (like the service). But as long as you don't expect more than that, the accomodations are very adequate. (I stayed on the 8th floor, and I understand the room may be nicer on the upper floors.) We were there on Chanukah, the hotel was packed with Israelis (and a plenty of American's too) getting away for the holiday, and they had a lot of nice kids' programs at the hotel for Chanukah, so I give them a lot of credit for that.

Still, I think most would agree that the nicest thing at the hotel is the outdoor pool, so going there in the warmer months would be ideal.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #237 on: December 20, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »
is anyone going to be there this shabbos? or know of someone going?

yes i do pm me

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #238 on: December 23, 2012, 12:52:24 AM »
Is it a fact that when one cancels it becomes immediately available to book again?
yes IME

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #239 on: December 23, 2012, 04:44:20 AM »
Any recent reports how much they charge for breakfast, for SPG not status members?