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They are certified Kosher from the local Rabbanut. (Ein Bokek)
The meat is NOT Glatt.
The chicken is Rabbanut Mehadrin.
The cooking is Bishul Yisrael according to the Rema, not the Beit Yosef.
The vegetables are Gush Katif. The cabbage is NOT.

The Mashgiach says, the hard cheeses are not Mehadrin.

Breakfast:
- Breads, pastries, cakes - parbaked or raw frozen , Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Packaged yogurts and puddings - some are B"datz . Rubin, but be careful some could be cholov nochri, check packaging
- Grapefruit and Orange Juice from Spout - PriMor ,Chasam Sofer Petach Tiqwa
- Hard Round Cheeses on cutting board- Cholov Nochri
- Gvina Levana, cottage cheese - .....................
- Feta, Bulgarian Cheeses - He claims Belz
- Some type of butter spread- some are cholov nochri
- Fish- He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....), but its usually just herring and mackarel
- Tuna - He says B"datz, but there is usually some type of leafy veggie in there i.e. parsley
- Instant Coffee Machine - Cholov Yisroel of some rabbi in Ashkelon
- Espresso Station - Milk is usually Mehadrin Tnuva, you can look at the bag (Yes milk comes in a 5 gallon bag)
- Hot Stations- Not really sure, they serve dinner there also which is fleishig, I'm guessing they switch the stations, but i wouldn't....
- Produce - He says B"datz ( he says B"datz about alot of things....)
- Cereals- some are cholov nochri


Lounge:
Basically the same cakes and fruits as breakfast.

Mashgiach's number 050-892-2728
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #340 on: January 16, 2013, 12:25:11 PM »
As of now:

Avoid
Dmitry at front desk
Guy Marom

Don't Avoid
Roni Tal PR guy
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #341 on: January 16, 2013, 12:25:39 PM »
Avoid Guy Marom at all costs.  I had a big argument with him. He lied to Starwood.
I think he is "the" manager.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #342 on: January 16, 2013, 12:46:54 PM »
I think he is "the" manager.
I would believe that its Rani Shitrit. The guy is listed as General Mangaer in my reservation.

Your Le Méridien Dead Sea reservation is confirmed.
Please let us know if there is anything we can do to make
your stay more pleasurable.
Best wishes for an enriching journey.

Sincerely,
Rani Shitrit
GENERAL MANAGER
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #343 on: January 16, 2013, 04:03:28 PM »
I think he is "the" manager.
He's the "Room Division Manager" and a very not nice person

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #344 on: January 16, 2013, 05:55:52 PM »
I just stayed at the hotel this shabbos, I gotta say I was really disappointed.

Some of the users here were disregarding the posters that said it was dirty and disgusting. I went, and found out that they were right: It's dirty and disgusting. I must have got the same room as MoisheBatchy http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11744.msg375804#msg375804 who found a iron burn mark on the floor. The same floor that had the most disgusting carpet I ever seen in a hotel, probably more fitting for a motel 6. The room had dirty walls, dirty tables, dirty floor, filled garbage, and a dirty bathroom. If you get room 228, make sure you change it. To be honest I saw one other Starwood room and it looked a lot better than mine did. The hallways are horrible looking too, but one can deal with that.

The lone staircase to get to the second floor, is the nastiest staircase I have seen in years. I would go down to the first floor using a different staircase, just so I can get up to the the lobby (3rd floor) using the lobby's direct staircase from the first floor, without having to nearly vomit in the other green staircase.

The service in the hotel was also 1/5. They get one star for actually being nice when I asked them requests. They get no more stars after that because not one of my numerous, various requests were actually granted. I asked two different people to turn off the a/c in the hallway of the rooms, because it was freezing and many people were complaining. They didn't listen. I found out the hard way that the thermostat in the room that goes up to 30 celsius, doesn't actually work for heating. The receptionist told me that they'll send a radiator, and of course they didn't. I cancelled breakfast in the morning, and when I went to check out they tried charging me for it.

Another reason I didn't enjoy the stay, is from the amount of chillul shabbos that is going on by the hotel guests and workers. I had to be careful that I wasn't talking to a Jew when I made ceratin requests but at certain times, I just wasn't sure.

All in all, the hotel does it have its bright spots, the lobby, some hangout areas and the price, but overall, it was not an enjoyable stay.

My mom was telling that she mentioned my experience at the LMDS to a starwoods rep, and the rep said I should call and I'll get a full refund.
Think it's true?
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #345 on: January 16, 2013, 06:31:44 PM »
My mom was telling that she mentioned my experience at the LMDS to a starwoods rep, and the rep said I should call and I'll get a full refund.
Think it's true?
You can definitely always call for a refund. But always bear in mind that the more we call to complain about a certain property, the more likely for Starwood to look to kick them out, thus leaving us with one more less option in Israel, or the hotel will get annoyed by being harassed, and will seek to leave on their own. It is a cat 1, and you are definitely getting decent value for a cat 1, IMHO.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #346 on: January 16, 2013, 06:34:26 PM »
You can definitely always call for a refund. But always bear in mind that the more we call to complain about a certain property, the more likely for Starwood to look to kick them out, thus leaving us with one more less option in Israel, or the hotel will get annoyed by being harassed, and will seek to leave on their own. It is a cat 1, and you are definitely getting decent value for a cat 1, IMHO.
he isn't getting decent value if he payed. If it was a points redemption, maybe
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #347 on: January 16, 2013, 07:44:59 PM »
My mom was telling that she mentioned my experience at the LMDS to a starwoods rep, and the rep said I should call and I'll get a full refund.
Think it's true?
Complain to Starwood about Jewish staff not keeping Shabbos?

About staff not listening to your recommendations for temperature in their hotel?

About you misunderstanding the A/C?

The hotel is priced in league with the competition. That's what you get in Israel. The service is not inferior to other Israeli hotels.
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #348 on: January 16, 2013, 08:58:40 PM »
he isn't getting decent value if he payed. If it was a points redemption, maybe
By reading the last line of his post, i would assume it was a points stay :D
"All in all, the hotel does it have its bright spots, the lobby, some hangout areas "and the price", but overall, it was not an enjoyable stay"

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #349 on: January 16, 2013, 09:28:44 PM »
An spg rep once told me that you can only book one award reservation per hotel per night.
Right now online I was able to book two rooms for the same night, using points. I booked them separately and got two conf number, and was charged 3k per night twice.
Will I have any sort of problems when checking in?

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #350 on: January 16, 2013, 09:29:30 PM »
None.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #351 on: January 16, 2013, 09:33:23 PM »

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #352 on: January 17, 2013, 12:23:08 AM »
You can definitely always call for a refund. But always bear in mind that the more we call to complain about a certain property, the more likely for Starwood to look to kick them out, thus leaving us with one more less option in Israel, or the hotel will get annoyed by being harassed, and will seek to leave on their own. It is a cat 1, and you are definitely getting decent value for a cat 1, IMHO.
I'm also concerned about that. That's why I've basically stopped complaining about the place.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #353 on: January 17, 2013, 12:27:12 AM »
I'm also concerned about that. That's why I've basically stopped complaining about the place.

its about time we come together and NEVER call SPG!!!!

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #354 on: January 17, 2013, 12:40:47 AM »
Complain to Starwood about Jewish staff not keeping Shabbos?

About staff not listening to your recommendations for temperature in their hotel?

About you misunderstanding the A/C?

The hotel is priced in league with the competition. That's what you get in Israel. The service is not inferior to other Israeli hotels.
No, I wouldn't complain to them about anything that I wrote in my post, though in reality I do not think I even got 2,000 points worth.

My a/c complaints were not only my own, it was everyone that was on those floors. The heater they said they would bring. The worst room I have ever seen in a place that calls itself a hotel.

So yes, the price is decent, but not for what I received.  I honestly believe it was not worth $50 for that disgusting room. I Would have never booked a room in that condition for any price.
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #355 on: January 17, 2013, 12:55:33 AM »
No, I wouldn't complain to them about anything that I wrote in my post, though in reality I do not think I even got 2,000 points worth.

My a/c complaints were not only my own, it was everyone that was on those floors. The heater they said they would bring. The worst room I have ever seen in a place that calls itself a hotel.

So yes, the price is decent, but not for what I received.  I honestly believe it was not worth $50 for that disgusting room. I Would have never booked a room in that condition for any price.
You received real estate in a prime location, at way below the fair market value of it.
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #356 on: January 17, 2013, 01:28:43 AM »
You received real estate in a prime location, at way below the fair market value of it.
It was a hotel stay, not a real estate investment.
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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #357 on: January 17, 2013, 01:52:45 AM »
I agree as said before, try not to complain about 3k points, because it might cause us to loose the hotel - shame.

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #358 on: January 17, 2013, 03:15:28 AM »
besides losing the hotel, they might treat spg guests worse

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Re: Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #359 on: January 17, 2013, 03:21:46 AM »
I agree as said before, try not to complain about 3k points, because it might cause us to loose the hotel - shame.
besides losing the hotel, they might treat spg guests worse
Ok. I won't complain to SPG as long as no one tries to convince me that I got my money's worth.
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