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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2019, 06:47:40 PM »
7 hour stopover in LIS with 4 kids (age 6-11). What is recommended? (Castle? Maritime museum? Just walk around?)
Do I need to exchange for Euros to ride public transportation (train? trolley?)
Can I get kosher food?

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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2019, 12:25:36 AM »
There is a ton of walking in Lisbon and everything is hills. You can get a pass for the day that includes most trams, buses, trains and even some boats but keep in mind if you are going with a family, taxis is probably cheaper if you can fit into one taxi.  Taxis are pretty cheap there.  Best thing to do is make your plan and see how you will get there and then decide if the pass is worth it (include transportation to/from airport but keep in mind will take longer to get there by train from/to airport).  There are two passes one includes museums and is much more expensive and is probably not worth your while the other might be but again if you can all fit into a taxi you are probably better off with that especially if you only have limited time to spend there. 
That being said the castle is really neat for kids if they enjoy old buildings.  The tour which is free with your paid admission was really good and explained things really well but it is about an hour but not all kids are able to do it.  You can always leave in the middle.  We were lucky as we only had to wait about 15 minutes for the next English tour but as they only do it every 2 or 3 hours, I would suggest finding out if they have a time schedule and plan around it.  If you are not taking a taxi directly there, it is a little confusing going through the streets finding it, so give yourself time to find it.  In addition depending when you go the lines could be long just to get into the castle.
The trams are neat to go on for the kids but if you go in the summer it will be really hot and crowded.
If you are going this time of year make sure to carry lots of drinks as will be really hot.
The main thing in Lisbon is the views, they have a bunch of lookout places and European Plazas kinda neat to see.
There is the shul but only open certain times and I think you need to make an appointment to see it. We were there on a Sunday and it wasn't open.
They also have a Jewish tour but nothing was going to be open on Sunday so we did not take it but if you go online you can Google it and see if worthwhile for you.
There are a bunch of museums, we went to the tile museum which I would not recommend for kids.  It was in an interesting building and had some interesting things but not for kids and even some adults, though it was highly rated.
I did see online that there are boat tours which might be nice for the kids to get a different view of Lisbon and maybe a little cooler and a good break from walking. They even have a sunset tour which is supposed to be very nice.
By the water they have a farmers market which is inside and kind of neat to see but you need to check out times and days when it is open.
If you have an extra day there is a bigger castle out of Lisbon.  We didn't go as we did not have the time but it is supposed to be very nice. Lisbon is a nice stop over for a day but there is a lot of walking on steep hills and it does get hot in the summer.
Hope this helps.

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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2019, 11:59:59 AM »
Has anyone ever ordered Kosher from any of the services offering in Lisbon?
Also, recommendations for day trips from Lisbon?
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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2019, 09:43:07 AM »
sintra and obidos were great day trips

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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2019, 02:53:03 PM »
Has anyone ever ordered Kosher from any of the services offering in Lisbon?
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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2020, 11:43:32 AM »
Has anyone been to the hotel da musica kosher restaurant for Shabbos?

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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2020, 11:38:39 AM »
Wanted to give a little TR (my first) about a couple things in Lisbon. :)

I had a 6hr layover between Chicago & TLV, and took an opportunity to visit Shaarei Tikvah, and check out the kosher market.

Took an Uber to Shaarei Tikvah for 10 Euro, and my driver was an off-season tour guide. I had a conversation with another lady a couple of days later who said her group had similar luck with their taxi driver, so if you find yourself in Lisbon in the Jan-Feb months it seems like driving folks around is a common pick-up job for tour guides who are filling in gaps during the slow season! Amongst other things, he pointed out the aqueduct, which I took a mental note to check out in more depth during my next visit.

You have to prearrange a visit to Shaarei Tikvah, but it was easy to send an email to visits@cilisboa.org, and there is more info for larger groups here: https://cilisboa.org/activities-and-services/synagogue/. They asked for a copy of my passport or the number in advance, for security. Be advised that they do not allow carry-on luggage into the shul. I didn't have a problem with my backpack, but my rollerboard raised concern.

Sandra is a GEM!! Not only did I get a tour and history of the shul and the current community, Sandra covered the history of Jews in Portugal going back to 2nd temple periods. She spent about an hour with me 1:1. It would have been difficult with my littlest kids (they'd have been bored, I think?), but pre-teens and up should be comfortable. Not too much walking around, we sat in the sanctuary until we went upstairs to the women's balcony (which you could skip if you don't like the stairs).

The recommended donation is 5 Euro, but I personally recommend much more - the website has a PayPal donation link, and bank info if you want to send an electronic donation.

After the tour, I elected to walk to the kosher market (http://portuel-kosher-portugal.pt/). I made it, but huffing and puffing - took just under 20 min on slippery cobblestone sidewalks (it had been drizzly) up and down steep hills. I imagine an Uber would have cost under 3 Euro (and some of my self-respect at not being able to walk 20 min up and down the mountain). The market is new since my last visit to Lisbon in 2014. They have a variety of Israeli products, reheatable meals (like airline food), ramen, snacks, candy, etc. When I was there, there was a modest selection of cheese and deli - enough to make a snack or stock an Airbnb kitchen, just not enough to be picky. I imagine that might be different during a more popular tourist season, though. The owner also bakes fresh challah for Shabbat (order in advance: http://portuel-kosher-portugal.pt/categoria-produto/bakery-please-order-in-advance/), and has a large stock of frozen kosher meats & products (including pita). If you're just passing through, contact them in advance to request a sandwich (http://portuel-kosher-portugal.pt/categoria-produto/sandwiches/). There's an excellent wine selection, and Shabbat-friendly equipment (disposables, hot plates for rent, etc.).

From the kosher market, I took a 6 Euro Uber back to the airport.

On my return, I had a chance to go to the ANA lounge via Priority Pass. There was a great selection of breakfast cereals, drinks, whole fresh fruit (apples, oranges), and a bunch of other fresh-made non-kosher food I was jealous of. Best of all... they have sleeping rooms, which I was super grateful to take advantage of after the 5am flight from TLV. The only catch to the lounges at LIS is that they are all on the other side of passport control from the flights between US & Israel. The airport is split into S and N 'wings' of Terminal 1. Both of my flights out of LIS, to ORD and to TLV, were from N and the lounges are in S, beyond border control. I had 4 hours in LIS, so it was worth it - under 2 hours wouldn't have been worth standing in the longish border control line.

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Re: Portugal Master Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2020, 02:14:52 PM »
Any Azores or Madeira trip reports?
Anyone have an opinion on one over the other?