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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #120 on: June 22, 2020, 09:58:57 PM »



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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #121 on: June 22, 2020, 10:06:46 PM »
im sick of these news reports. You know who does this kind of thing? ISIS. What the heck is going on in this country? We Have world class terrorists living in the neighborhood!
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #122 on: June 22, 2020, 10:20:21 PM »
Lawlessness and anarchy is the theme of the month!
what's next month?

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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #123 on: June 23, 2020, 01:28:50 AM »
At 10:15 the caravans will commence in the following locations:

Crown heights:
President and Kingston (on President between Kingston and brooklyn)

Flatbush/midwood:
Ocean avenue and Ave. J
(On ocean ave)

Borough park:
13th ave and 48th street
(On 13th ave)

Williamsburg:
Lee ave.  and Rutledge
(On Lee)

We will be taking over all the side streets leading up to Gracie mansion if  east end is indeed closed. We want to leave at this time to avoid issues of last minute positioning and setup and have ample time to coordinate and proceed on time.
We will be blocking the FDR on the *SOUTH BOUND SIDE* heading towards brooklyn since Gracie mansion is right on the edge by 90th street at the beginning/end of the tunnel.

All other locations out of brooklyn, please coordinate with those joining from those areas and commence a starting point to leave together.

Feel free to coordinate rides with each other if you don’t have a car as well.
Please have your blinkers flashing so other cars approaching know where to pull up too.
Bring any and as much loud making material that you have.

It happened.

A few hundred angry new Yorkers showed up to a “noisy” protest in Manhattan late Monday night, sending a “noise message” to Mayor DeBlasio.

The residents are furious that DeBlasio has done nothing to stop the fireworks plaguing the city every night until 3-4 in the morning, preventing millions of New Yorkers from being able to sleep.

In return, the protesters arrived in their vehicles and honked their horns outside Gracie Mansion, to give the Mayor a taste of what it feels like to not be able to sleep.
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #124 on: June 23, 2020, 01:38:58 AM »
It happened.

A few hundred angry new Yorkers showed up to a “noisy” protest in Manhattan late Monday night, sending a “noise message” to Mayor DeBlasio.

The residents are furious that DeBlasio has done nothing to stop the fireworks plaguing the city every night until 3-4 in the morning, preventing millions of New Yorkers from being able to sleep.

In return, the protesters arrived in their vehicles and honked their horns outside Gracie Mansion, to give the Mayor a taste of what it feels like to not be able to sleep.
Saw the videos and thought "Wow, that's nice. I hope the Mayor will finally do something"

Until I saw many frum yidden.

I'm still hoping for a crack down BUT WHY? Why are frum hidden protesting? Are we not classier than that? Are we not supposed to realize our place in golus- that Eisav is supposed to be in charge?

If anyone here was at the protest this question is addressed to you:

I understand the frustration the fireworks. I am suffering as well. I understand that protesting will hopefully show the mayor how the public feels about this.

But how do you want to portray the Jewish community in the long term?

I believe many religious discrimination lawsuits wouldn't have half their merits if we acted like low class citizens. This is childish and needs to stop.
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #125 on: June 23, 2020, 01:41:22 AM »
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Anyone know who that is talking?
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #126 on: June 23, 2020, 09:36:35 AM »
Saw the videos and thought "Wow, that's nice. I hope the Mayor will finally do something"

Until I saw many frum yidden.

I'm still hoping for a crack down BUT WHY? Why are frum hidden protesting? Are we not classier than that? Are we not supposed to realize our place in golus- that Eisav is supposed to be in charge?

If anyone here was at the protest this question is addressed to you:

I understand the frustration the fireworks. I am suffering as well. I understand that protesting will hopefully show the mayor how the public feels about this.

But how do you want to portray the Jewish community in the long term?

I believe many religious discrimination lawsuits wouldn't have half their merits if we acted like low class citizens. This is childish and needs to stop.
Im usually on your side of the argument but strangely enough this time I'm not so much. Not sure why though. Maybe bc the whole society has taken a collective step farther into insanity and the frum community has just stepped along-while keeping a basic distance. In comparison to todays insane behavior from citizens, and politicians across the board, I think the frum people, mostly led by frum politicians, are in step.
obviously I wish there be no public interactions true, that would be the optimal scenario
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #127 on: June 23, 2020, 10:06:44 AM »
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #128 on: June 23, 2020, 11:02:13 AM »
Saw the videos and thought "Wow, that's nice. I hope the Mayor will finally do something"

Until I saw many frum yidden.

I'm still hoping for a crack down BUT WHY? Why are frum hidden protesting? Are we not classier than that? Are we not supposed to realize our place in golus- that Eisav is supposed to be in charge?

If anyone here was at the protest this question is addressed to you:

I understand the frustration the fireworks. I am suffering as well. I understand that protesting will hopefully show the mayor how the public feels about this.

But how do you want to portray the Jewish community in the long term?

I believe many religious discrimination lawsuits wouldn't have half their merits if we acted like low class citizens. This is childish and needs to stop.

dont be like the german obedient jews that were led to the slaughter & respected authorities because they said something, there is a time in place to be quiet & a time to scream & shout & DO. Now is time to take action in the most civilized way possible

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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #129 on: June 23, 2020, 11:02:56 AM »
Mayor De Blasio just announced that he's forming a fireworks task force including over 40 law enforcement officers, including 12 FDNY officers, to respond to illegal fireworks. It'll involve "undercover buys" & "sting operations.”

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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #130 on: June 23, 2020, 12:20:03 PM »
dont be like the german obedient jews that were led to the slaughter & respected authorities because they said something, there is a time in place to be quiet & a time to scream & shout & DO. Now is time to take action in the most civilized way possible
I wouldn’t compare the 2
But there is a time and place for everything, back then, the rabbis marched in Washington DC. This time around it’s being led by young politicians and “askanim” while veteran askanim, politicians and rabbanim  are quiet. I’d be a little wary of this movement, even though I agree with them

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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #131 on: June 23, 2020, 12:40:10 PM »
dont be like the german obedient jews that were led to the slaughter & respected authorities because they said something, there is a time in place to be quiet & a time to scream & shout & DO. Now is time to take action in the most civilized way possible
That is not a clean comparison for many reasons:

1) The Jews during WWII could not have fought. Would not have helped. The Nazis Yimach Shemam didint ask nicely.

2) The more you try to be like the goyim the more they hate. Please read Divine Fury by Harav Avigdor Millet Zatzal.

3)this wasn't the most civilized way possible. It was done very low class.

4) our lives are not being threatened. There is no hatzolas nefashos. The fireworks are an annoyance.

5) Protesting like this is uncalled for for such a trivial issue. Based on watching videos and speaking to people who went many protested "for the fun of it." "Its a matziv" 

Back to what you said about German jews: the Nazis were animals. No opportunity to fight. Those who originally asked the question - why didint they fight? - were not frum torahdik people. Those who were there do not ask the question.


I wouldn’t compare the 2
But there is a time and place for everything, back then, the rabbis marched in Washington DC. This time around it’s being led by young politicians and “askanim” while veteran askanim, politicians and rabbanim  are quiet. I’d be a little wary of this movement, even though I agree with them


As you said "Dont compare the two" :

The Rabbis march on Washington was a revverved dignified Rabonim walking respectfully, saying tehillim, davening, respectful speeches.

Do you think [insert name of European Rosh Yeshiva Here] carried scribbled signs,  tooted horns or screamed and chanted?

As you pointed out look at who organized that march vs who organized this one:
Do you think the guy giving a speech is soooooo impassioned by the fireworks issue that he spontaneously ran to Gracie Mansion and needed to give a speech? He is a want to be politician hoping to get famous. (Or as DDF would say ___Made It!")
 There is a reason that no daas torah endorsed this.
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #133 on: June 23, 2020, 09:13:08 PM »
lets see how effective the special fireworks task force will be tonight (or wants to be at least..)
im hearing some start up now..
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Re: Out Of Control Fireworks
« Reply #134 on: June 24, 2020, 01:12:21 AM »
lets see how effective the special fireworks task force will be tonight (or wants to be at least..)
im hearing some start up now..
Definitely better than the last few days.