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Taking into consideration the situation, will you be going to Uman this year?

Yes
6 (8.7%)
No
10 (14.5%)
Not sure yet / waiting to see how the situation develops
3 (4.3%)
I wasn't planning on going anyways
50 (72.5%)

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Author Topic: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???  (Read 46076 times)

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Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« on: June 25, 2020, 06:23:01 AM »
What will be???

I'm not a Breslover, (visited once on a stopover from the US to TLV) but I imagine that the breslov crowd is going to have a hard time keeping away from Uman.
I could see the Israeli govt banning flights to/from Ukraine, but whats going to stop them from chartering a plane to the UK or some other country and then to Ukraine?
Will Ukraine ban visitors?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 06:29:17 AM by yfr bachur »

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 07:01:58 AM »
Will Ukraine ban visitors?
i'm not sure that will stop them either

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 07:41:04 AM »

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2020, 09:39:47 AM »
95% chance uman IS happening

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 09:51:18 AM »
95% chance uman IS happening
100% chance it's happening, question is on what scale.

Before shavous when people from all over the world were waiting to get into Ukraine and the borders were closed even for emergencies and even with quarantine etc., somehow hundreds of frum people made it to Uman and Medzibush for shavuos.
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 10:13:51 AM »
dont put anything past breslovers

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2020, 02:10:14 PM »
100% chance it's happening, question is on what scale.

Before shavous when people from all over the world were waiting to get into Ukraine and the borders were closed even for emergencies and even with quarantine etc., somehow hundreds of frum people made it to Uman and Medzibush for shavuos.
There were full nesiyas to mezhbuz for yomtov, and more people go every day. Like everything in life you need to know the right people... Same story with poland/hungary etc...

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2020, 02:13:22 PM »
Ukraine is gonna let everyone in they need it. And there's no way israel can stop people from leaving. They can not let them back in, but i doubt that'll happen

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2020, 03:28:15 PM »
Australia doesn't allow its citizens to travel abroad, so everything is possible. However, I doubt Israel will make much of an issue, with quarantine hotels on the return being the worst case scenario
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2020, 03:33:23 PM »
Australia doesn't allow its citizens to travel abroad, so everything is possible. However, I doubt Israel will make much of an issue, with quarantine hotels on the return being the worst case scenario
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2020, 03:52:38 PM »
If Ukraine was a US state and the governor was a D, the bleeding heart liberals would be telling us how bad the Breslovers are for going against the science and traveling to Uman. Boruch Hashem Ukraine is a separate country and it does't affect Trump's reelection so no one cares.

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2020, 04:03:16 PM »
If Ukraine was a US state and the governor was a D, the bleeding heart liberals would be telling us how bad the Breslovers are for going against the science and traveling to Uman. Boruch Hashem Ukraine is a separate country and it does't affect Trump's reelection so no one cares.

People care, but we're talking about hypotheticals in 3 months from now.
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2020, 04:08:03 PM »
If Ukraine was a US state and the governor was a D, the bleeding heart liberals would be telling us how bad the Breslovers are for going against the science and traveling to Uman. Boruch Hashem Ukraine is a separate country and it does't affect Trump's reelection so no one cares.
Just to be clear, are you using “bleeding heart” as a pejorative?
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2020, 06:51:04 PM »
א.ל.ו.ל.

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is that what it is???  :)

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2020, 07:12:35 PM »
Containers of food have already been shipped over

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 07:14:45 PM »
א.ל.ו.ל.

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The ואשתי לבד is not a novel concept. Chasidim have gone to the rebbe for R"H from time immemorial.

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2020, 06:36:09 AM »
The ואשתי לבד is not a novel concept. Chasidim have gone to the rebbe for R"H from time immemorial.
i.e. 300 years
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2020, 07:48:14 AM »
The ואשתי לבד is not a novel concept. Chasidim have gone to the rebbe for R"H from time immemorial.
Yup that used to mean leaving your wife for 2 weeks for the wagon ride, now you can get away from her and just stay in a hotel! No need to travel!
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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2020, 08:24:17 AM »

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Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2020, 12:16:27 PM »
Yup that used to mean leaving your wife for 2 weeks for the wagon ride, now you can get away from her and just stay in a hotel! No need to travel!
Are you really casting aspersions on the multitudes of chassidim that went to the rebbe for yo"t?