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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2020, 01:41:31 PM »
Yes.
So do you consider ramming ACB through a mistake?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2020, 01:43:05 PM »
So do you consider ramming ACB through a mistake?
Rather considering this an illusion.
With a Democrat senate appearing possible if not likely

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2020, 01:56:08 PM »
So do you consider ramming ACB through a mistake?

Going along with your assumptions, do you really think the Ds wouldn't want to pack the court even if ACB wasn't confirmed?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2020, 01:58:02 PM »
Rather considering this an illusion.
So polls are wrong because you want them to be? Or you have enough insider knowledge of voters in MN/IA/MI/ME/NC/AZ, all of which are polling average D, to be confident a 'democrat senate being possible' is an illusion?

Going along with your assumptions, do you really think the Ds wouldn't want to pack the court even if ACB wasn't confirmed?
will we see the D's packing SCOTUS?

Personally I don't think so,

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2020, 02:05:11 PM »
You can argue if the President creates jobs but I think we can all agree that he can sabotage jobs, and that is what Trump is doing cutting the red tape

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #105 on: October 30, 2020, 02:09:24 PM »
You can argue if the President creates jobs but I think we can all agree that he can sabotage jobs, and that is what Trump is doing cutting the red tape
With unemployment being double what it was 10 months ago a monkey can create jobs. They both will lower unemployment. Maybe Trump would lower it more, but there won't be any way to prove it.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2020, 02:10:07 PM »
Yes.
You don't think something like term limits would be a bigger possibility?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #107 on: October 30, 2020, 02:10:39 PM »
You don't think something like term limits would be a bigger possibility?
Can they do that with a simple senate majority?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #108 on: October 30, 2020, 02:12:52 PM »
Can they do that with a simple senate majority?
It seems the senate can do whatever they want nowadays.
Who would stop them? SCOTUS would all have to recuse themselves.  :)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #109 on: October 30, 2020, 02:29:03 PM »
Can they do that with a simple senate majority?

Pretty sure it would need to be a constitutional amendment. (One suggestion I heard Democrats make to work around that, would be for them to stay judges but be moved to a lower court).

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #110 on: October 30, 2020, 02:48:33 PM »
I have been hearing from a lot of people involved in security, politics or both that we should prepare for the possibility of riots.

Either immediately after the election, or if there is a prolonged court battle. It's also possible that if there is a court battle, both sides will have their share of people who riot.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #111 on: October 30, 2020, 02:55:53 PM »
I have been hearing from a lot of people involved in security, politics or both that we should prepare for the possibility of riots.

Either immediately after the election, or if there is a prolonged court battle. It's also possible that if there is a court battle, both sides will have their share of people who riot.
The governor of California said the same. The good thing is the left wing rioters arenít armed. The problem is itís not the left thatís losing
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #112 on: October 30, 2020, 02:59:31 PM »
 I haven't seen any right wing riots when the election didn't go their way, so that doesn't worry me.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #113 on: October 30, 2020, 03:00:29 PM »
The governor of California said the same. The good thing is the left wing rioters arenít armed. The problem is itís not the left thatís losing
Good thing we don't need to worry about the right wing white supremacist. They are busy plotting to kidnap politicians, blow up synagogues and kill Jews. 
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #114 on: October 30, 2020, 03:01:24 PM »
I haven't seen any right wing riots when the election didn't go their way, so that doesn't worry me.
No they just plot to kidnap politicians.  ::)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2020, 03:19:15 PM »
The good thing is the left wing rioters arenít armed.

I can't figure out how you actually believe this nonsense. Which dreamworld are you in?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2020, 03:22:35 PM »
I can't figure out how you actually believe this nonsense. Which dreamworld are you in?
It's called reality. You should try it.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

All the states with the most guns are strong Republican.
The states with the least guns are mostly strong Democrat.
All the swing states are in the middle

Now attack me because you have nothing to say on the actual arguments.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2020, 03:36:04 PM »
It's called reality. You should try it.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

All the states with the most guns are strong Republican.
The states with the least guns are mostly strong Democrat.
All the swing states are in the middle

Now attack me because you have nothing to say on the actual arguments.

Let s go through the version of reality in your dreamworld.

1. That does not in the slightest back up that left wing rioters don't have guns. You are making a generalization to fit your preconcieved notions.
2. Does that include illegal guns? Many heavily D urban areas can give you a reality check on those.
3. Match the area were we have seen BLM violence with areas where there is high gun violence
4. Compare maps of gun violence with Rs and Ds.


But you can continue to twist facts to match the way you would like it to be.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #118 on: October 30, 2020, 03:39:56 PM »
But you can continue to twist facts to match the way you would like it to be.
You mean like you just did?  ::)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #119 on: October 30, 2020, 03:41:58 PM »
You mean like you just did?  ::)
I am sorry that they don't match what you want. I made no assertions that anyone is without guns. I don't have stats, but I would imagine that most here and in other communities would be more fearful of being stuck in the middle of an inner city riot that one of rednecks.
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