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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2020, 01:48:20 AM »
Unlike the Democrats, the Jews would leave the US if Biden and the Senate fall to the Dems. Aliya would be at all time highs.

The stock market would crater with the rollback of tax cuts and the new regulations liberals would put in place.

Oil would jump, as the US would cut production and revoke licenses.

Interest rates would pop as inflation would jump under the million programs the liberals want to start.

Iran would have a nuclear weapon within a year or 2.

Israel would become friendly with Russia and China.

Murders and crime would go through the roof as they put more and more regulation on the police.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2020, 07:43:47 AM »
Unlike the Democrats, the Jews would leave the US if Biden and the Senate fall to the Dems. Aliya would be at all time highs.
If this was true the D's would get ever WN/Nazi vote instead of Trump.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2020, 07:50:08 AM »
Aliyah will be at an all time high either way because there is upheaval and people will rethink & restructure their lifestyle.

The stock market did just as well under Obama.

US production cost is already above oil price so will have little impact

Iran nuclear development is far more active under Trump than Obama (fable of the sun & the wind comes to mind)

Israel has been trying to be friendly with Russia & China since 1948 to no avail.

Murders & crime have skyrocketed now under Trump, not a Democrat
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2020, 08:01:43 AM »
Aliyah will be at an all time high either way because there is upheaval and people will rethink & restructure their lifestyle.

The stock market did just as well under Obama.

US production cost is already above oil price so will have little impact

Iran nuclear development is far more active under Trump than Obama (fable of the sun & the wind comes to mind)

Israel has been trying to be friendly with Russia & China since 1948 to no avail.

Murders & crime have skyrocketed now under Trump, not a Democrat

I dont think people will talk about aliyah more than actually doing anything.

I'm not sure how you are measuring the stock market but I didn't come to that conclusion.
Currently with all the Coronavirus layoffs unemployment is about the same as it was under Obama contrast with the %3 or so it was for most of trump's presidency (so far)

Iran nuclear development was just as much under Obama but they liked to pretend that they were nice honest people who kept their end of a deal.

Crime has risen in cities which were problems to begin with. Mostly Democrat run, many after reducing deterrents to crime. (Just recently: walked back Democrat NY Bail Bill)

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2020, 08:06:45 AM »
Aliyah will be at an all time high either way because there is upheaval and people will rethink & restructure their lifestyle.

The stock market did just as well under Obama.

US production cost is already above oil price so will have little impact

Iran nuclear development is far more active under Trump than Obama (fable of the sun & the wind comes to mind)

Israel has been trying to be friendly with Russia & China since 1948 to no avail.

Murders & crime have skyrocketed now under Trump, not a Democrat

All proof that none of those have anything to do with who the POTUS is. The only thing that matters is SCOTUS (and other judicial) nominations. G-d save us from Biden appointees. (FTR - I don't think Hide'em will make it to the White House.)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2020, 08:14:51 AM »

Crime has risen in cities which were problems to begin with. Mostly Democrat run, many after reducing deterrents to crime. (Just recently: walked back Democrat NY Bail Bill)
Yeah but Trump isn't going to stop anymore in his second candidacy than he did in his third

Iran nuclear development was just as much under Obama but they liked to pretend that they were nice honest people who kept their end of a deal.
That's not true

I dont think people will talk about aliyah more than actually doing anything.

I'm not sure how you are measuring the stock market but I didn't come to that conclusion.
Currently with all the Coronavirus layoffs unemployment is about the same as it was under Obama contrast with the %3 or so it was for most of trump's presidency (so far)

Iran nuclear development was just as much under Obama but they liked to pretend that they were nice honest people who kept their end of a deal.

Crime has risen in cities which were problems to begin with. Mostly Democrat run, many after reducing deterrents to crime. (Just recently: walked back Democrat NY Bail Bill)



I'm not sure how you are measuring the stock market

S&P annual performance:

Trump 2019 +31%

Obama 2013 +32.43%

Other years are comparable as well.

Dow Jones

Trump
2017 +25.08%

Obama 2013 +26.5%


Currently with all the Coronavirus layoffs unemployment is about the same as it was under Obama
Do you really believe what you write? It's now 11%, when Obama came into office it was around 8% and when he left around 4.5%, offering a far greater improvement than Trump's 4.5% to 3.7%, although that can be explained by the rule of decreasing marginal returns
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2020, 08:21:32 AM »
All proof that none of those have anything to do with who the POTUS is. The only thing that matters is SCOTUS (and other judicial) nominations. G-d save us from Biden appointees. (FTR - I don't think Hide'em will make it to the White House.)

Right. The 2008 bailout was administered by SCOTUS, the 2020 stimulus is a SCOTUS idea, and Israel is only waiting for SCOTUS approval to annex enemy territory, as SCOTUS supported the formation of Israel in 1948 and SCOTUS sold weapons & other military support to Israel over the last 70 years.

Not to mention, some of the most liberal SCOTUS rulings have been handed by Biden Trump appointees.

But don't let facts get in your way. Tesla, that has never been accused of fraud, is the next WireCard where at least $2B were fraudulently reported and there is a rich history of accusations going back years.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2020, 08:26:08 AM »
SCOTUS is a smoke screen by many to justify their support of Trump.

Hundreds of thousands of people are dying from the virus and gun violence and SCOTUS is what is important to them.  ::)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2020, 08:35:22 AM »
BTW, can we get some actual details about what a liberal SCOTUS would do differently? Didnít they already uphold ObamaCare? Donít they already support every possible pro LGBT suit?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2020, 08:37:24 AM »
Aliyah will be at an all time high either way because there is upheaval and people will rethink & restructure their lifestyle.
The stock market did just as well under Obama.

US production cost is already above oil price so will have little impact 

Iran nuclear development is far more active under Trump than Obama (fable of the sun & the wind comes to mind)
Israel has been trying to be friendly with Russia & China since 1948 to no avail.

Murders & crime have skyrocketed now under Trump, not a Democrat.

Aliyah will be at an all time high either way because there is upheaval and people will rethink & restructure their lifestyle. If Trump wins people will calm down as there is nothing left to undermine.

The stock market did just as well under Obama. There was a Republican Congress

US production cost is already above oil price so will have little impact 

Iran nuclear development is far more active under Trump than Obama (fable of the sun & the wind comes to mind) there is a limit to that activity and under Biden that limit will be pushed. Besides as we saw Israel attacked them with ease knowing the US will defend them. Under Biden that is not guaranteed.

Israel has been trying to be friendly with Russia & China since 1948 to no avail. https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/06/15/how-russia-saved-israel-from-a-palestinian-state-based-on-the-48-borders/ China is also a lot closer economically then they ever were before.

Murders & crime have skyrocketed now under Trump, not a Democrat. The cities are run by democrats who protect those who commit crimes.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2020, 08:42:03 AM »
BTW, can we get some actual details about what a liberal SCOTUS would do differently? Didnít they already uphold ObamaCare? Donít they already support every possible pro LGBT suit?

Late-term abortions?

Guns?

Do you really think that this society is going to stop with LGBT getting their marriage rights? Do you not see marrying your pets as the next craze? How about abolishing separate bathrooms everywhere? Forcing religions to marry gays? Forcing shuls to allow women to sit with them?

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2020, 09:10:31 AM »
I am definitely willing to say I donít think Trump losing the elections will make people marry their pets.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2020, 09:15:19 AM »
I am definitely willing to say I donít think Trump losing the elections will make people marry their pets.
How about shuls allowing pets to sit with them?  :)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2020, 09:15:38 AM »
I am definitely willing to say I donít think Trump losing the elections will make people marry their pets.

People already do....question is if the states will start to recognize Mr and Mrs Molly.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2020, 09:45:48 AM »
BTW, can we get some actual details about what a liberal SCOTUS would do differently? Didnít they already uphold ObamaCare? Donít they already support every possible pro LGBT suit?

As awful as the Bostock decision was, it left open the question of whether it applies to religious organizations. Do you think that would be the case if RBG wrote the opinion? Getting some protection from Republican appointed judges is better that the nothing we would get from Democrat appointed ones.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2020, 01:23:37 PM »
And the list goes on...
You would need tens of thousands more for the point to be accurate.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2020, 01:31:16 PM »

S&P annual performance:

Trump 2019 +31%

Obama 2013 +32.43%

Other years are comparable as well.

Dow Jones

Trump
2017 +25.08%

Obama 2013 +26.5%
Do you really believe what you write? It's now 11%, when Obama came into office it was around 8% and when he left around 4.5%, offering a far greater improvement than Trump's 4.5% to 3.7%, although that can be explained by the rule of decreasing marginal returns
Obama inherited a recession, by the very nature of the ups and downs economy we should have had a booming recovery but instead we ended up with the slowest recovery in history. Trump inherited a bull market which we had experts telling us for years that it was ready to crash. Even with Coronavirus the economy is bouncing right back to where it was, and don't forget most of the market crash was directly caused by the extended shutdowns enacted by Democratic governors.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2020, 01:33:17 PM »
If this was true the D's would get ever WN/Nazi vote instead of Trump.

stupid comment WN are just not that smart.

A most Jews vote D

B do not agree with the post, but hes thinking conservative frum Jews witch is not many at all.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2020, 01:38:45 PM »
Obama inherited a recession, by the very nature of the ups and downs economy we should have had a booming recovery but instead we ended up with the slowest recovery in history. Trump inherited a bull market which we had experts telling us for years that it was ready to crash. Even with Coronavirus the economy is bouncing right back to where it was, and don't forget most of the market crash was directly caused by the extended shutdowns enacted by Democratic governors.

Plus all these D love Obama and biden but little do they care that Obama bailed out wall street and the elites with no punishment when the elites and wall street crashed our markets.

The whole middle class suffers because of the D bail out for years and years to come but the only hate trump because they only watch main stream media, and that how far there brain can take them.