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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2020, 07:50:35 AM »
Number 3 - yes. Number 1 - on some scale. Number 2 - no.
Fair enough. I thought Number 2 was funny but in that case I'll replace it with Wealth Redistribution -1) Slavery Repirations and 2) Aid to any country we've been at war with or DJT offended
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2020, 08:10:14 AM »
Fair enough. I thought Number 2 was funny but in that case I'll replace it with Wealth Redistribution -1) Slavery Repirations and 2) Aid to any country we've been at war with or DJT offended

I'm genuinely curious. Can you give an example of a country you're referring to? Isn't the US already funding Iraq & Afghanistan?

Number 3 - yes.
What makes you assume Biden will recognize a Palestinian State? Didn't Obama veto it in the UN as well as well as his Democratic predecessors?

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2020, 08:27:01 AM »
What makes you assume Biden will recognize a Palestinian State? Didn't Obama veto it in the UN as well as well as his Democratic predecessors?
Times have changed.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2020, 09:11:13 AM »
Just to be clear : that's a list of 7 reasons I want to keep trump as president
Just to be clear, my sarcasm still stands.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2020, 09:20:56 AM »
Didn't Obama veto it in the UN as well as well as his Democratic predecessors?

It was recently revealed that in the final days of the Obama administration they were considering pushing another UN security council resolution imposing pre-67 borders. It never came up for a vote because Russia made it clear they would veto it.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/flynn-transcript-shows-russia-opposed-obama-un-resolution-on-israel-631884

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2020, 09:25:51 AM »
Didn't Obama veto it in the UN as well as well as his Democratic predecessors?
Since no one will answer your question I will.
YES!!!
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2020, 09:45:55 AM »
I'm genuinely curious. Can you give an example of a country you're referring to? Isn't the US already funding Iraq & Afghanistan?
What makes you assume Biden will recognize a Palestinian State? Didn't Obama veto it in the UN as well as well as his Democratic predecessors?



It's been very clear that he worked behind the scenes to undermine them in the UN.


Since no one will answer your question I will.
YES!!!
Did he want to veto? NO!!
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2020, 09:48:21 AM »
Since no one will answer your question I will.
YES!!!
Um that was four yrs ago!!!
Are you blind to the way the Democrat party has been going?
Engle, one of the last pro Israel Dems in the house just lost a primary. And if you think that Biden will be anything more than a puppet, I’ve got a bridge to sell you

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2020, 09:51:09 AM »
Um that was four yrs ago!!!
Are you blind to the way the Democrat party has been going?
Engle, one of the last pro Israel Dems in the house just lost a primary. And if you think that Biden will be anything more than a puppet, I’ve got a bridge to sell you
He asked a simple question that was a yes or no answer.
Answer the question then add your narrative. That is how you have an honest discussion.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2020, 09:54:20 AM »
He asked a simple question that was a yes or no answer.
Answer the question then add your narrative. That is how you have an honest discussion.
Then I'll reword my post : yes he vetoed but no he did not want to.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2020, 09:56:00 AM »
Then I'll reword my post : yes he vetoed but no he did not want to.
Fair enough. Now the part about he didn't want to is that your opinion or do you have a source for it?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2020, 10:05:02 AM »
Do you have a source for it?

It was recently revealed that in the final days of the Obama administration they were considering pushing another UN security council resolution imposing pre-67 borders. It never came up for a vote because Russia made it clear they would veto it.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/flynn-transcript-shows-russia-opposed-obama-un-resolution-on-israel-631884

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2020, 10:06:35 AM »
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2020, 10:10:37 AM »

You post a link that denies the story?  ::)
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2020, 10:19:12 AM »
You post a link that denies the story?  ::)

If that's what you want to take from the story, then go ahead.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2020, 10:36:00 AM »
If that's what you want to take from the story, then go ahead.
The story is about Flynn's account who is anti-BO and wasn't in the administration. The only direct quote on it is from the US Ambassador who denied it. That is inline with the facts of the US vetoing it in the past.

What is the issue here. Didn't Trump say the solution was for two states?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2020, 02:28:05 PM »
The story is about Flynn's account who is anti-BO and wasn't in the administration. The only direct quote on it is from the US Ambassador who denied it

Are we reading the same article? The one I read had a quote from a wire tap on the Russian ambassador, a quote from President Obama to an Israeli journalist, confirmation from "senior staffer of one of the parties in the Knesset at the time", and reports that Bibi told the story to a cabinet meeting.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2020, 11:33:11 PM »
What would it take for the Democrats to change the presidential elections to national popular vote?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2020, 11:50:23 PM »
What would it take for the Democrats to change the presidential elections to national popular vote?

They've been trying for years already.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2020, 11:54:47 PM »
What would it take for the Democrats to change the presidential elections to national popular vote?

Why would you want to do that?  You do know its really just a media nartive that if you had popular votes Clinton would of won.