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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2020, 01:13:39 AM »
While I agree Trump is behaving like a poorly behaved child, the Twitter overreach is far more concerning to me. Something must be done. It’s incredible that they’re getting away with this.
So you want government regulation?
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2020, 01:17:01 AM »
So you want government regulation?
Of twitter or Trump?

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2020, 01:20:24 AM »
Twitter has to remove harmful materials. Trump's tweet may or may not be harmful, but who would you like to make that determination? The options are government and Twitter...

Or do you want Twitter to just leave everything up including pornography, violence, suicidal influence, terrorism, and whatnot?

Facebook has been begging the gov't to take over this regulation.
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2020, 01:20:45 AM »
So you want government regulation?
Is there any better option? Having them self regulate doesn’t seem to be working. I don’t like government regulation, but something has to be done

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2020, 01:25:40 AM »
I'm fine with Twitter doing the regulation, as long as it's posted clearly, and kept to what their guidelines are, and can be held accountable and punished for not adhering to their own rules.

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2020, 01:29:07 AM »
Is there any better option? Having them self regulate doesn’t seem to be working. I don’t like government regulation, but something has to be done
What about free market deciding? You can't claim there should be less government regulation and flip and want more when something goes against you.
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2020, 02:32:18 AM »
What about free market deciding? You can't claim there should be less government regulation and flip and want more when something goes against you.

Twitter, like Facebook, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms, is in a funny position. One the one hand, they're best a platform, not a media company, and as such are expected to be neutral and not push and rhetoric or suppress free speech. They're not supposed to be an opinionated media company. On the other hand, they are supposed to filter out dangerous and pernicious content, which includes pornography, incitement of violence, incitement of terrorism, and dangerous fake news. All of these things require taking a stand as to what to qualify as dangerous, and what to define as fake or needing disclaimer. It's hard to argue about the fact that they are obviously slanted, but it's also hard to say that they are wrong for getting involved at all. Yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected by free speech laws, and the operator of the PA system in said theater should turn it off if someone is yelling fire on the microphone and seems imminently close to triggering a stampede due to fake news.

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2020, 09:32:10 AM »
Twitter, like Facebook, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms, is in a funny position. One the one hand, they're best a platform, not a media company, and as such are expected to be neutral and not push and rhetoric or suppress free speech. They're not supposed to be an opinionated media company. On the other hand, they are supposed to filter out dangerous and pernicious content, which includes pornography, incitement of violence, incitement of terrorism, and dangerous fake news. All of these things require taking a stand as to what to qualify as dangerous, and what to define as fake or needing disclaimer. It's hard to argue about the fact that they are obviously slanted, but it's also hard to say that they are wrong for getting involved at all. Yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected by free speech laws, and the operator of the PA system in said theater should turn it off if someone is yelling fire on the microphone and seems imminently close to triggering a stampede due to fake news.
The Hunter Bides story is “yelling fire in a crowded theater” or is it someone with a political agenda censoring free speech?

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2020, 10:38:34 AM »
The Hunter Bides story is “yelling fire in a crowded theater” or is it someone with a political agenda censoring free speech?
Anything that helps nazis trump is fire in a crowded theater
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2020, 11:14:30 AM »
Twitter, like Facebook, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms, is in a funny position. One the one hand, they're best a platform, not a media company, and as such are expected to be neutral and not push and rhetoric or suppress free speech. They're not supposed to be an opinionated media company. On the other hand, they are supposed to filter out dangerous and pernicious content, which includes pornography, incitement of violence, incitement of terrorism, and dangerous fake news. All of these things require taking a stand as to what to qualify as dangerous, and what to define as fake or needing disclaimer. It's hard to argue about the fact that they are obviously slanted, but it's also hard to say that they are wrong for getting involved at all. Yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected by free speech laws, and the operator of the PA system in said theater should turn it off if someone is yelling fire on the microphone and seems imminently close to triggering a stampede due to fake news.
Free speech laws aren't the point. Freedom of speech means Twitter is allowed to say what they want, just like you are. The issue is Section 230 and at what point does the exercise of their free speech right change them from a platform exempt from liability to a publisher with more responsibility for the rest of their content.
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2020, 11:21:06 AM »
Facebook has been begging the government to regulate its content for years.
That’s because it’ll help their business! It’s all about money, Facebook can moderate because they have vast resources, it’ll be a workaround the antitrust laws because you would start to need a lot of money to have a real social network.

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2020, 11:27:33 AM »
That’s because it’ll help their business! It’s all about money, Facebook can moderate because they have vast resources, it’ll be a workaround the antitrust laws because you would start to need a lot of money to have a real social network.
Huh? They don't want to be in the position they are in now of having to make to make these decisions. They aren't stupid enough to think the government will pay for it when they are one of the most profitable enterprises on earth
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2020, 11:37:10 AM »
Huh? They don't want to be in the position they are in now of having to make to make these decisions. They aren't stupid enough to think the government will pay for it when they are one of the most profitable enterprises on earth
Exactly. They will pay for it and they can afford it. Other social networks will go bankrupt

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2020, 03:05:12 PM »
They probably aren't asking the government to regulate it itself, rather they want them to set rules and guidelines for for them to regulate it.

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2020, 10:40:42 PM »
https://twitter.com/garretthaake/status/1336453338183950341?s=21
idk veto rules but is it really veto proof? He really has nothing to lose if he can veto it without the section 230 repeal stuff in it
What does he have to lose?
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2020, 10:57:56 PM »
idk veto rules but is it really veto proof? He really has nothing to lose if he can veto it without the section 230 repeal stuff in it
What does he have to lose?
335-78 is veto proof, yes. It needs a veto proof Senate majority too though, which may be more difficult to come by
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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2020, 01:54:00 PM »
Dr. Zelenko’s been suspended

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Re: Twitter Overreach
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2020, 10:34:16 PM »
Dr. Zelenko’s been suspended
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