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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2020, 02:29:30 AM »
So if they travel out of the country they would be able to return without quarantine.
Most dont travel out of the country regularly. Next?
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2020, 07:37:17 AM »
How about inform everyone without being tested?
Unless s/o is diagnosed positive, his contacts are highly unlikely to quarantine as it's a big disruption to life and work. And "close contact" is typically with ppl in the general public, who he'll have no way to contact.

Nor do i think that most ppl who refuse to test despite having symptoms are actually self-quarantining in order to keep those around them safe.

Hopefully, they'll be able to crack down and punish ppl who purposely put others in danger.

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2020, 07:40:38 AM »
in elad the city didn't meet any of the necessary criteria but they put it in lockdown without even consulting the mayor while other cities that have Likud mayors were consulted and managed to avoid getting locked down
Which 'Likud' cities had the high rates in April that Bnei Brak, Jerusalem, etc had, yet avoided quarantine?
I'm not saying there wasn't, I simply don't recall. 

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2020, 03:53:55 AM »
Which 'Likud' cities had the high rates in April that Bnei Brak, Jerusalem, etc had, yet avoided quarantine?
I'm not saying there wasn't, I simply don't recall.
not in April but now at the same point that elad was put in lockdown bat yam had similar percentage points but wasn't put into lockdown because the mayor kicked up a fuss

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2020, 07:31:55 AM »
not in April but now at the same point that elad was put in lockdown bat yam had similar percentage points but wasn't put into lockdown because the mayor kicked up a fuss
Or maybe it is because in Bat Yam the residents who have it can be relied on to quarantine themselves and in Arad they cannot be relied on, because they were told not to listen?

I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm just saying that according to the premise of this thread, it's a possibility that makes sense.

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2020, 08:05:04 AM »
Or maybe it is because in Bat Yam the residents who have it can be relied on to quarantine themselves and in Arad they cannot be relied on, because they were told not to listen?

I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm just saying that according to the premise of this thread, it's a possibility that makes sense.
so you are making accusations that even the Israeli anti semites haven't yet come up with and using that to justify discrimination. Even in those places that aren't getting tested, anyone who has symptoms is acting as if they have been infected i.e. self isolating and letting those who were in contact with them know. The only difference a test would make is for the statisticians to know how many people have been infected.

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2020, 08:33:51 AM »
The only difference a test would make is for the statisticians to know how many people have been infected.
And the hypothetical ability to avoid quarantine upon returning to Israel from an overseas trip.
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2020, 08:51:20 AM »
And the hypothetical ability to avoid quarantine upon returning to Israel from an overseas trip.
LOL, you aren't going to give this up, huh?
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2020, 09:00:30 AM »
LOL, you aren't going to give this up, huh?

I wasn't the one to bring it up on this thread IINM. I don't think it's much of an issue for those living there, which is why I call it hypothetical.

So if they travel out of the country they would be able to return without quarantine.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2020, 09:34:54 AM »
so you are making accusations that even the Israeli anti semites haven't yet come up with and using that to justify discrimination. Even in those places that aren't getting tested, anyone who has symptoms is acting as if they have been infected i.e. self isolating and letting those who were in contact with them know. The only difference a test would make is for the statisticians to know how many people have been infected.
I was saying that if the OP is correct, then the Israeli government is justified in differentiating between the 2 cities.

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2020, 09:49:44 AM »
I wasn't the one to bring it up on this thread IINM. I don't think it's much of an issue for those living there, which is why I call it hypothetical.


LOL that you don't think that was you bringing it up. :P
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2020, 01:56:45 AM »
In a few months you can come back to this thread and see all have concluded that the leader of that chasuna was right....

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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2020, 02:13:27 AM »
In a few months you can come back to this thread and see all have concluded that the leader of that chasuna was right....

Amen.
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Re: Could It Get Any Worse? Charedim Refusing Corona Tests
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2021, 10:20:53 PM »
In a few months you can come back to this thread and see all have concluded that the leader of that chasuna was right....
You positive?
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