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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2023, 03:45:00 PM »
The statement is
It is an unwritten rule to avoid things you know are wrong when it goes against the side you support.

The is such a horrific tragedy they should violate that rule.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2023, 03:46:33 PM »
It is an unwritten rule to avoid things you know are wrong when it goes against the side you support.

The is such a horrific tragedy they should violate that rule.
not following.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2023, 03:48:12 PM »
That is not what it said but who cares at this point, right?

They literally showed an image of the terrorists who paraglided in to take those exact actions. They didn't just say "I stand with Palestine," they included the image of the individuals who took those actions. That is a very clear statement that they support and encourage those specific actions.

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2023, 03:54:04 PM »
The image I agree with you. Two separate groups, one is the statement and the other is the image.

I know you don't want to lump everyone together.

Holy Moses, I hadn't even read the statement in the first tweet. The statement says explicitly what the image implies. They say not to condemn burning families alive and beheading babies, but to call it a "desperate act of self-defense."


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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2023, 03:56:29 PM »
They literally showed an image of the terrorists who paraglided in to take those exact actions. They didn't just say "I stand with Palestine," they included the image of the individuals who took those actions. That is a very clear statement that they support and encourage those specific actions.
The image posted by "BLMChicago" is despicable no matter how they might try and explain it away.

I was talking about the statement from "BLM Grassroots".
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2023, 03:57:11 PM »
Holy Moses, I hadn't even read the statement in the first tweet. The statement says explicitly what the image implies. They say not to condemn burning families alive and beheading babies, but to call it a "desperate act of self-defense."
Let me go back and read it few times.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #66 on: October 10, 2023, 04:31:24 PM »
You will not like this.  :-[
They are talking about the Palestine people resisting for the past 57 years. I do not take that resistance to include Hammas terrorist acts.

With that being said it was absolutely the wrong time to post that statement. A logical conclusion can be drawn that you are condoning this murderous attack on civilians.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2023, 04:40:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1711556684190278094
https://twitter.com/BLMChi/status/1711793142742073573
this right here is the possibly the biggest threat facing humanity right now.
Any attempt to justify or answer for such atrocious acts can only lead to more evil on this world.
It scares me to think that these people exist and are even celebrated even here in the united states.

Sorry @CV but it's quite the stretch to try and justify the grassroots tweet

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2023, 04:43:12 PM »
Sorry @CV but it's quite the stretch to try and justify the grassroots tweet
I can't believe their intention was to justify killing babies.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2023, 04:45:42 PM »
You will not like this.  :-[
They are talking about the Palestine people resisting for the past 57 years. I do not take that resistance to include Hammas terrorist acts.

With that being said it was absolutely the wrong time to post that statement. A logical conclusion can be drawn that you are condoning this murderous attack on civilians.

Your point is they just randomly decided to post that statement today about a 57-year-long struggle with no connection to the current events of the day?

And why only 57 years? The PLO was founded in 1964 with the goal of Palestinian statehood and eradicating Israel. Did the Palestinian people retroactively decide they weren't actually colonized between '48 and '67?

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2023, 04:48:57 PM »
I can't believe their intention was to justify killing babies.
Amazing how you are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, considering the timing and wording of there statement.

I hope in the coming days as the civilian death toll in Gaza inevitably and unfortunately rises you will then say about Israel;
 
I can't believe their intention was to justify killing babies.

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2023, 04:58:58 PM »
I can't believe their intention was to justify killing babies.

And yet here we are. On the streets of New York, London, Sydney and more, as reports came out of the attacks tens of thousands of people came out to the streets to cheer Hamas on. They came with Swastikas, they chanted "gas the Jews", and they laughed and joked about what Hamas was doing.

We've been screaming for decades that Hamas wants to murder Jews. We've been screaming that supporting Hamas is supporting murdering Jews. People didn't want to believe it. "They're freedom fighters", "They're oppressed", etc. etc. Well, now everyone can see what we were screaming about. Most have landed on the side of humanity, and people who were staunch supporters of Hamas are reeling and confused. But then you have people like this.

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2023, 05:00:07 PM »
Amazing how you are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, considering the timing and wording of there statement.

I hope in the coming days as the civilian death toll in Gaza inevitably and unfortunately rises you will then say about Israel;
 
Your point is they just randomly decided to post that statement today about a 57-year-long struggle with no connection to the current events of the day?

And why only 57 years? The PLO was founded in 1964 with the goal of Palestinian statehood and eradicating Israel. Did the Palestinian people retroactively decide they weren't actually colonized between '48 and '67?
With that being said it was absolutely the wrong time to post that statement. A logical conclusion can be drawn that you are condoning this murderous attack on civilians.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2023, 05:07:49 PM »
I can't believe their intention was to justify killing babies.

Maybe they didn't know that specific part at the time, but the rest?
The timing was not random at all.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2023, 05:16:14 PM »
Maybe they didn't know that specific part at the time, but the rest?
The timing was not random at all.
They had to know about the 260 kids murdered at the concert. You think they condoned that?
What I have seen from major BLM groups is protest and civil disobedience.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2023, 05:25:14 PM »
They had to know about the 260 kids murdered at the concert. You think they condoned that?
What I have seen from major BLM groups is protest and civil disobedience.

I don't see any other interpretation just like I see no other interpretation for the image with the parachute. I do understand that this BLM Grassroots is not representative of all BLM. I did see the same statement getting quoted on X from BLM Los Angeles but that seems to be fake.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2023, 05:53:34 PM »
They had to know about the 260 kids murdered at the concert. You think they condoned that?
What I have seen from major BLM groups is protest and civil disobedience.

They are literally telling you they don't condemn it and call it self defense. When people tell you who they are, believe them.

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2023, 06:05:35 PM »
And why only 57 years? The PLO was founded in 1964 with the goal of Palestinian statehood and eradicating Israel. Did the Palestinian people retroactively decide they weren't actually colonized between '48 and '67?
They heard you.  ;)

Correction for Slide 3: Black Lives Matter stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 YEARS of settler colonialism and apartheid.
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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2023, 06:17:29 PM »

You seriously can't tell the difference between bad, inappropriate timing vs intentional and deliberate timing?

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Re: Do All Black Lives Matter To BLM?
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2023, 06:22:46 PM »
You seriously can't tell the difference between bad, inappropriate timing vs intentional and deliberate timing?
Yes I can but it is trying to understand each group/race/nationality.

You know hard it is for someone to grasp that that a Jew in the US who has never met someone killed in Israel looks at it as his family member was killed? It took me a long time to grasp that concept.
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