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Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
« Reply #480 on: August 22, 2024, 12:10:06 AM »
Does anyone know of any people interested in making a minyan between 8/22 - 8/28 in yellow stone or grand teton? I know they are far apart, first seeing in general, then we can discuss if it works.  We have a minyan for shabbos in Bozeman. If anyone else is going happy to share my notes and planning.
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Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
« Reply #481 on: August 22, 2024, 05:07:56 PM »
Here is my itinerary:
Yellowstone / Grand Teton 3.5 Day Itinerary – August 2024
Day 1 (Sunday)
9:45 my wife and I arrived in BZN (Bozeman Yellowstone Airport, Bozeman, Montana)
10:15 left rental car place (with a Toyota 4-runner from Costco) which is attached to the airport
10:25-11:00 stop at Walmart (they have Kosher bread, bagels, English muffins, Chumus etc.) buy sunscreen, baseball caps, water and drinks
Along the way you go for 2 minutes on a stretch of the I-90 which has a speed limit of 80 mph!
Along the way we saw antelopes
12:50 arrive North Entrance (which is a less busy entrance, we did not have to wait to get into the park, you must pay an entrance fee unless you have a National Parks pass)
(took pictures at “Yellowstone National Park sign” and at the Roosevelt Arch)
1:15 arrive at Mammoth Hot Springs Welcome Center (Park rangers at all visitor centers and info stations are very knowledgeable, and willing to help you plan your trip!)
1:30-2:10 Mammoth Hot Springs, a trail on a boardwalk around numerous hot springs which flow down the mountain
2:10 leave for Tower Falls, we missed the one-way Blacktail Plateau Drive (we love one-way streets in National Parks) but instead, on the main road we encountered a bison directly in front of our car!
(We stopped at Petrified Tree but we have no clue what it is all about)
2:25 took a picture at Undine Falls
2:30-2:55 Tower Falls
3:00-3:05 Calcite Springs, a 5-minute loop
3:10 leave for Canyon Village
(We did not do the long and gorgeous hike onto Mount Washburn)
4:00 arrive Grand Canyon of Yellowstone (check-in is 4pm) Mincha
4:50 leave lodge for Lower Falls (North Rim).
4:55-5:55 hike down to the brink of the Lower Falls featuring 9 switchbacks, which was a difficult hike getting back up to the parking lot but well worth it
(We did not go to Inspiration Point on the North Rim)
5:55 Leave for Mud Volcano, passing through Hayden Valley
6:25-6:27 Sulphur Caldron
6:30 Mud Volcano really cool springs but definitely the foulest (rotten eggs in saltwater) smell from all the hot springs we encountered
6:55 we met another bison at Mud Volcano
7:00 return to Canyon Village
7:25 arrive at Canyon Village for the night (nice place to stay, no air conditioning, but cool at night)

Day 2 (Monday)
5:30 wake up, daven and learn
6:30 נץ החמה
When you get closer to Old Faithful find out Old Faithful times 307-344-2751 or www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/geyser-activity.htm
8:35 leave for Canyon South Rim
8:40-9:40 from parking lot we went to trail and made a left until we got to an observation point, then we turned around and hiked to Artist Point, a bit strenuous hike with breathtaking views.
9:40 Artist Point parking lot features zero bathrooms
9:50-10:10 we walked on the street back to our parking lot
10:25-10:40 brink of the Upper Falls
10:45 leave for Norris Geyser Basin
11:10 arrive at Norris Geyser Basin (difficult to find parking, we parked in the RV lot)
11:25-11:50 we stopped for a few minutes at the museum and then we walked around the loop (the temperature here is said to be very hot because of these extremely hot springs)
(we skipped Artists Paintspots)
12:20-12:30 Gibbon Falls
12:40 we stopped at the Madison Information
12:55 leave for Firehole Falls
Take Firehole Canyon Drive to reach Firehole Falls
1:30-1:40 Fountain Paint Pot
2:05-2:50 arrive at Midway Geyser Basin (Grand Prismatic Spring) – difficult to find parking, may be worth it to park on the street. Walk around loop
2:50 drive for 3 minutes to parking for trail to overlook of Grand Prismatic Spring, once again parking spots are difficult to find.
3:05-3:50 Take trail up to overlook; the trail has little shade.  (One can continue hike to Fairy Falls)
3:50 leave for Old Faithful
(Biscuit Basin was closed due to an eruption which took place a few weeks before)
4:30 arrived at Old Faithful a few minutes after eruption
We went to Old Faithful Inn and Old Faithful General Store
Old Faithful Visitor’s Center has a video about a half hour before eruption time. Old Faithful geyser is directly behind the Visitor’s Center
5:29 Old Faithful eruption, 2 minutes after estimated time.
5:50 left Old Faithful for Grant Village Picnic Area
6:00 one minute stop at the beautiful Kepler Cascades waterfalls
Before reaching Grant Village Picnic Area on the road on our left, way down, we saw the beautiful Yellowstone Lake. We put our disposable grill on the park’s grill.
8:00 arrived at Grant Village (passing by elk on the way) for the night. This room had a fridge. (Grant Village Lodges are much older than the nice Canyon Lodges we stayed the night before.)
Day 3 (Tuesday)
6:00 wake up, daven and learn
6:32 נץ החמה
8:50-9:20 davening on the deck of the Grant Village Information Station
9:30 West Thumb Geyser Visitor Center has videos every half hour.
9:30-10:00 West Thumb Geyser Basin has numerous geysers, some on the beach of Yellowstone Lake and some even in the lake itself!
10:05-10:40 Grant General Store and checkout
10:40-12:00 leave Yellowstone National Park and arrive at Grand Teton Colter Bay Visitor’s Center. (Due to construction, we were stuck in traffic for one half hour.) On the way on our left, we saw a spectacular canyon which the Lewis River runs through, but the canyon itself is not even listed on the map!
12:00-1:00 Grand Teton Visitor’s Center and lunch next to Jackson Lake
1:00 leave for Willow Flats.
1:15 Willow Flats (wildlife viewing areas)
1:35-1:45 Oxbow Bend Turnout for wildlife viewing and you can go down into the beautiful Snake River with the mountains in the background. (Crocs and perhaps a bathing suit.) Depending on the weather, at Oxbow Bend, Signal Mountain Summit and Jenny Lake you may be able to see the reflection of the mountains in the water!
1:50-2:30 up to Signal Mountain Summit. Park and walk around the top of the mountain. Go down back to main road and make a left.
2:30-3:00 drive to Jenny Lake (there are many turnouts for pictures along the way)
3:00-6:45 Jenny Lake Ferry ($20 roundtrip or $12 for one-way) to other side of the lake. Ferries leave about every ten minutes. Take hike to Hidden Falls (perhaps crocs) then hike way up to Inspiration Point. (We found 8 men over Bar Mitzvah but not the last two we needed for a minyan.) Bring and drink plenty of water. Expect the hike to take 60-90 minutes.
6:45 left Jenny Lake.
7:15 Mincha and grilling on a disposable grill in Miller Park, Jackson, WY
8:00-9:45 drive to Fairfield Inn, Rexburg, Idaho. The first half hour was a crazy drive up the Tetons. (You can take pictures at the summit.) And then a less crazy drive down the mountain. The last hour was a normal drive in Idaho.

Day 4 (Wednesday)
5:30 wake up, daven and learn
6:39 נץ החמה
(Bagels in the hotel, and many hotels, were OU-Pas Yisroel. We took a closed 6-pack of bagels.)
8:00-9:30 left for Parade Rest Ranch (406-646-7217) for a beautiful one-hour horseback riding tour. (They also offer 2-hour and 4-hour rides.) Arrive 30 minutes before scheduled trip.
10:20-11:30 horseback riding
11:30-1:02 drive back to BZN on the scenic 191 North. (There is a gas station on the way to the airport, right next to the airport.)
1:02 arrived at BZN, checked in luggage and then drove around to return car
2:00 flight from BZN

A few notes:
•   It is recommended to fly into BZN and fly out of JAC or vice versa, however tickets to/from JAC can be pricy. Plus the one-way rental fee adds to the costs.
•   If you plan on being in Yellowstone for only a few days then it is probably worthwhile to stay “inside the park” in the pricy lodges rather than finding an Airbnb or hotel/motel in West Yellowstone, MT, Gardiner, MT or Island Park, ID
•   Even Yellowstone Lodges give soap, shampoo, tissues and towels
•   We brought with us a bear cooler, a 2-pack of disposable grills, a small sandwich maker and a small Kumkum (electric kettle)
•   Living in the Eastern Time Zone we tried to stay on Eastern Time Zone schedule when out west, as you can accomplish much more during daylight hours.
•   https://www.godaven.com/temporary-minyanim
•   Phone service, internet and Waze is spotty throughout the parks.
•   Yellowstone National Park is shaped like an 8. There is the Grand Loop with the road from Canyon to Norris slicing through it. This itinerary does not cover the upper left side of the and the bottom portion of the bottom right part of the 8.


Activities we did not do:
•   Kayaking tours in Yellowstone Lake, which depart from Grant Village Marina
•   Whitewater rafting (call to check the water levels to see if the rapids are Class III and Class IV)
•   Big Sky Mountain Biking: take the ski lift up the mountain and bike down the mountain.
•   Lamar Valley for wildlife viewing
•   There are numerous geysers near Old Faithful, but they are much less predictable than Old Faithful whose estimated eruption has juts a 10-minute plus/minus window

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Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
« Reply #482 on: August 22, 2024, 11:28:59 PM »

Thanks! Is it easy to find places to grill in Yellowstone? I was under the assumption without much research that it would not be allowed due to the wildlife. I’m staying in lake Yellowstone hotel & cabins one night, was the grilling site you mentioned near there? Anything near old faithful I’ll be there the other night.

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Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
« Reply #483 on: August 30, 2024, 08:25:57 AM »

Trip with my wife & 4 kids ages 1-8.

Some notes from my trip -
Alpaca farm in Bozeman was the first stop. We weren’t going to make it for their last tour of the day so they were happy to schedule one for us at a later time. We paid the standard price & had a private tour with the owner. I found his story & his business very interesting. Kids took a few minutes to warm up to the animals but once they did they had a blast. Fed them, held a baby & took them on a walk. Highlight of the trip for the kids.

Went to Walmart we got lucky snagged their last air mattress & disposable grill bought water & then drove straight to old faithful inn. Entered from west Yellowstone & bought an America the beautiful pass b/c I’d be going to grand Teton as well. In the park on the way to old faithful we saw a large herd of bison close to the road very exciting for the kids. We also passed a large crowd of ppl looking up a mountain where we saw a black speck moving around which we were told was apparently a bear. Saw what seemed like young wolves & maybe elk also although I wasn’t sure what they were & we passed them a little faster than we should have. Booked a geyser view room on chase with CSR. Very basic rooms & pretty small no AC not a problem was pretty cold window open & fan made the room freezing.  Needed to request fridge which they put in as a medical request. Fridge was small. They had P&P for the baby.

Day 2 Watching old faithful from our window was cool in the morning we watched the crowd growing but somehow took our eyes off the window & missed the eruption. Went out for the next one which was beautiful & a large amount of ppl already there at 10am. Took pix in hotel & got activity books for kids to become jr rangers from visitor center. Continued on to the hike for fairy falls which takes you to the overlook of GPS. Ground was gravel so was hard to push a yoyo stroller & gets steep & rocky towards the end so we just ditched the yoyo on the side at that point. Was beautiful seeing it up top but with little kids I’d prob just make do with the regular walk to GPS instead of the overlook - they were a bit cranky by the time we got back. So we then skipped gps & headed towards fountain paint pots. On the way we exited on the right onto fire hole lake Dr which had a few things to see right on the side of the road   There were some interesting looking geysers there & pink cone geyser began erupting right when we got there which was fun & when we got out out of car to take pix got us a bit wet.
Headed from there to fountain paint pots. FPP was easy walking & exciting for the kids. We circled back from there to lake Yellowstone hotel & cabins also booked on chase with CSR. We stayed in a cabin was drop bigger than our room the night before. Requested fridge & crib & was able to get both again.  Cabins were not far from the hotel. We made a bbq at the picnic area on the side of the hotel across from the clinic overlooking the lake. Was beautiful but a bit windy so grilled took pix on lake & pretty much ate in the car. Headed from there to Hayden valley on the way saw a lone bison right on the side of the road. Drove through Hayden valley but didn’t see anything too exciting. Large pack of bison but way off in the distance. On the way back we saw a bunch of ppl on the side of the road & were able to spot a brown speck moving in the distance which we were told was an elk.

Day 3 headed up to canyon falls went to artist point - very easy 2 min walk took some nice pics but realized by now that overlooks & nice waterfalls are not that exciting for the kids they weren’t so interested in going to see a waterfall from another angle so we headed down to mud volcano walk was mostly easy a little steep with stroller at some point. Similar but not as exciting as FPP. Headed down to Grand Teton on the way stopped at the clinic at Lake Yellowstone to take out some splinters in kids hands from railings at mud volcano. They were happy to help us without checking us in or getting complicated. On the way to Jackson we stopped at a bathroom & saw a boat ramp where ppl were boating & some ppl were just hanging out by the water so we put on bathing suits & let the kids hang out in the snake River. Stayed at homewood suites Jackson booked with 80k Hilton. Let the kids swim in pool a few minutes. & was finally able to have them sleep in a separate room.

Day 4 - woke up solo for sunrise at Schwabacher. On the way saw some elk on the side of the road. Got there about 15 min before sunrise. Was a decent amount of ppl there but wasn’t too hard to park & take pics. Pics are beautiful although the water was bit dirty & ripply from wind so reflection isn’t perfect. Back to hotel saw a bunch of cars stopped pulled over & somebody was nice enough to allow me to use his binoculars to see 2 moose way off in the distance. Stopped off at a quiet overlook to pray. Checked out & headed out to Jenny lake did the shuttle across & hike to hidden falls. Hike was not stroller friendly we left the stroller across the water. Hike was fairly easy kids got a bit tired. Ate at hidden falls. On way back saw a bull moose literally feet from us right off the path. Was quite exciting for everybody. Shuttle back & headed to Teton village. Teton village trails allows you to take young kids on an older horse & you lead them around half hour for $30. We gave each kid ten minutes. 8yr old was a bit old for it but they let it pass. Went from there across the street to aerial tram booked online for slight discount took tram to top of mountain. 12 min each way cars leave every 15 min. Skywalk was insanely windy & was quite cold but I managed some pix at the end of the skywalk with one kid that came with me to the end. Took some other pix with fam on top of mountain & headed down. There’s other things to do for kids in Teton village playgrounds tranpoline etc
Headed back up to west Yellowstone through Idaho was quite an interesting drive. Stayed at gray wolf inn & suites (also booked on chase) directly across the street from grizzly & wolf discovery center.

Day 5 went to G&W discovery center kids had a great time loved seeing the bears & wolves although we weren’t able to do kids keeper which is that the kids get to hide the food for the bears & then watch the bears look for it. Would try scheduling around that if possible. Didn’t know beforehand & anyways timing would not have worked out. Went to gift shop on main road & headed out to airport.

Flights were booked with JB & CSR. Flew RT jfk - Bzn on JB. Jackson hole one way would’ve been easier but was pricey even with points.

Booked a full size with national, they have a message to book the car size you need due to high demand I risked it & had hertz res as backup. Asked the lady at the counter in arrivals about availability & she said I won’t be able to get a 7 seater. Didn’t trust her went up to the lot & had a choice of armada or minivan. Minivan would’ve made more sense but I drive that at home so took the armada & made it work. Def was a risk as there was barely any cars in the lot. Paid $340 sun - Thurs with Executive elite rate.

Hotels in Yellowstone change availability daily. Chase doesn’t always show same avail as direct but when they do pricing is the same. I constantly checked chase & was able to book everything I needed on there.

Polar bear cooler is pretty amazing. 24 was a drop smaller than expected. I’d prob go with 48 if I was buying now.

Hotlogic max was great in the car. Car had an outlet so I’d didn’t need a converter. I bought the XP which has a cooler bag on top which ended up coming in very handy.

I’m sure every family is different my kids weren’t so excited about views so I adjusted accordingly.

Bring binoculars!

Meant to bring a baby carrier but forgot it. Would’ve def made the walking/hiking easier.

Whenever you see ppl or cars slow down & join them there’s usually an animal they’re looking at.

GuideAlong app was great.

Downloaded Google maps area from bzn to Jackson so had Google maps the entire trip even though I barely had service.

Old faithful inn & lake Yellowstone hotel & cabins both don’t have WiFi (or tv) but the old faithful snow lodge & lake Yellowstone lodge had WiFi in lobby although it was quite weak it gave me the ability to catch up on what was important. Was honestly quite refreshing not having service most of the trip.

Bh very grateful for an amazing trip & thank you everybody here for the help with planning.

Sorry for the not perfect writing it wouldn’t get done otherwise & I want to share in case this info can help someone else.

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Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
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