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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #75 on: July 12, 2020, 09:25:10 PM »
Florida on Sunday reported the largest single-day increase in positive coronavirus cases in any one state since the beginning of the pandemic. New York's single-day record was 11,571 on April 15.
http://4.nbcny.com/jpT9rJJ

I don't think thats and apples to apples comparison.
There was a lot less testing capacity in April then there is now

Not to inject politics into this more than it needs to be, but I believe that wearing a mask would get him more votes, not less.
Disagree and I will leave it at that.


He'd probably lose votes with the qanon base but gain mainstream votes

Those marginal vote's probably don't hinge on if he wears a mask but how the nation looks like in late October/ early November

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #76 on: July 12, 2020, 09:43:07 PM »


I don't think thats and apples to apples comparison.


Don't come here and expect accurate reporting or data. New york tested 26k people on April 15 vs 140k people tested in florida yesterday.... but yes sound the alarm and ofc all the fear mongers here were right all along. More like apple's to potatoes, that's a good comparison.

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #77 on: July 12, 2020, 09:54:03 PM »
Those marginal vote's probably don't hinge on if he wears a mask but how the nation looks like in late October/ early November
Yes and is there anything on the horizon that looks good for him? The two major issues will be covid-19 and the economy. That is if this race thing doesn't blow up by then.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #78 on: July 12, 2020, 09:55:12 PM »

Don't come here and expect accurate reporting or data. New york tested 26k people on April 15 vs 140k people tested in florida yesterday.... but yes sound the alarm and ofc all the fear mongers here were right all along. More like apple's to potatoes, that's a good comparison.
What was their positive rate from that testing?
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #79 on: July 12, 2020, 09:59:03 PM »
What was their positive rate from that testing?
Assuming his numbers are correct, the NY positive rate was over 40%, FL is under 11%.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2020, 09:59:38 PM »



Don't come here and expect accurate reporting or data. New york tested 26k people on April 15 vs 140k people tested in florida yesterday.... but yes sound the alarm and ofc all the fear mongers here were right all along. More like apple's to potatoes, that's a good comparison.
I will assume your testing data is correct but the number of positives isn't any less alarming. What about the hospital/icu capacity data? Also fear mongering?
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #81 on: July 12, 2020, 10:04:27 PM »
What was their positive rate from that testing?
Around 11% which is down from earlier in the week.

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2020, 10:05:37 PM »
I will assume your testing data is correct but the number of positives isn't any less alarming. What about the hospital/icu capacity data? Also fear mongering?
They have a larger population then NY, even having 20 people admitted to hospitals every single day won't take long to get full.

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #83 on: July 12, 2020, 10:06:08 PM »
Assuming his numbers are correct, the NY positive rate was over 40%, FL is under 11%.
Lets not assume. How about a source?
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2020, 10:07:22 PM »
Around 11% which is down from earlier in the week.
Isn't that a bad positive rate and showing the virus is spreading?
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #85 on: July 12, 2020, 10:08:19 PM »

Don't come here and expect accurate reporting or data. New york tested 26k people on April 15 vs 140k people tested in florida yesterday.... but yes sound the alarm and ofc all the fear mongers here were right all along. More like apple's to potatoes, that's a good comparison.

Ok, let's do this. Put up or shut up. Show any data posted here that wasn't accurate. Heck, show any reporting here that wasn't accurate.

Comparing Florida and NY isn't fair? You're right! No one compared them! It was just noted that the previous record number of cases confirmed in any individual state until this point happened to be in NY. That number was 11,571 on April 15. FL blew that number out of the water today with 15,300. Considering how no one thinks the situation in FL today is anywhere near as bad as NY was on April 15, what is your issue?

I'd like to know what you consider fear mongering and who's doing it. IMO, no one is trying to scare anyone. We're all just here trying to stay informed, despite the FL government's documented attempt to hide and distort information.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #86 on: July 12, 2020, 10:09:57 PM »
They have a larger population then NY, even having 20 people admitted to hospitals every single day won't take long to get full.
Populations are similar enough, and I'm talking about hospital capacity per @lurker's post below, not absolute numbers. See
Nothing to see here, just Lurker beating a dead horse:

https://wsvn.com/news/local/broward/broward-health-officials-address-overcrowded-hospitals-as-covid-19-cases-surge/

Some quotes from the article:
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #87 on: July 12, 2020, 10:12:40 PM »

Don't come here and expect accurate reporting or data. New york tested 26k people on April 15 vs 140k people tested in florida yesterday.... but yes sound the alarm and ofc all the fear mongers here were right all along. More like apple's to potatoes, that's a good comparison.
Where you getting the 140k from?
I am seeing 15 and 19% for the last two days and no where near 140k tested.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/florida
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #88 on: July 12, 2020, 10:20:08 PM »
Assuming his numbers are correct, the NY positive rate was over 40%, FL is under 11%.

Assuming his number are correct, 140k means nothing. It's been well documented that FL inflates the number of tests to keep their positivity rate low. They test health care workers multiple times a week, regardless of exposure. They test people multiple times a week to either confirm a positive, check for a false negative, or to confirm recovery. They also do 2 types of test and include both in their count. PCR is what everyone uses. FL also includes antigen tests, which are more likely to give a false negative, and almost always require an additional PCR test for confirmation. I believe FL's 140k test numbers are just that; individual tests, not individual people tested. (I have to find a source for that, although it may have already been posted.)

ETA: the 140k is absolute BS. And the rest of what I wrote still applies to the lower test numbers.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2020, 10:29:18 PM by Lurker »
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #89 on: July 12, 2020, 10:20:37 PM »
Where you getting the 140k from?
I am seeing 15 and 19% for the last two days and no where near 140k tested.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/florida
It's fake.
It's not the first time nor the second time he has used fake statistics here.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.