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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2020, 06:30:37 PM »
Don’t know about all that info above, my data is directly from my hospital system which has been keeping an accurate and active measure throughout.

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2020, 06:33:51 PM »
Don’t know about all that info above, my data is directly from my hospital system which has been keeping an accurate and active measure throughout.

This is referring to info provided through DoH or other government sources. It's what makes first hand accounts like yours so much more valuable to us (at least me).
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2020, 06:35:05 PM »
Ah gotcha

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2020, 11:58:27 PM »
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/

Per FL Covid Actions dashboard above, FL now has 859 ICU beds available, down from over 1300 earlier this week. There are delays in reporting, so the drop is probably not nearly as dramatic as it seems, but 859 is not a large number.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2020, 02:31:19 AM »
120 deaths were reported today, which is a record high. Only 30 of those deaths actually occurred in July. Most are deaths from June. A couple of deaths were from as far back as April. Many people think the daily death count was relatively low but they’re completely unaware of the new case —> reported death lag. In my estimates it takes about 30 days to start seeing the fatal effects of a spike in new cases.

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_linelist_latest.pdf
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2020, 02:44:37 AM »
Florida’s COVID-19 Data: What We Know, What’s Wrong, and What’s Missing
https://covidtracking.com/blog/florida-covid-19-data

Some examples:
-1 of 3 states that does not publish hospitalization data (the only one surging)
-Mixing PCR and antigen testing data
-Does not count probable cases and deaths. Death reporting can lag over 2 months. The deaths reported daily, are not from the previous few days but may go back months.
-Keeps changing how things count such as positivity rate, time of day, Florida residents
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2020, 09:21:50 AM »
Miami-Dade County reported at 33% positivity rate yesterday:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-07-10-20-intl/h_b9b1699e07df04a026c9ff9bf5b9ff00

Today, Trump visits Miami-Dade County. Ignoring who is in office for a second, but that's probably not where anyone wants their President hanging out.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2020, 09:23:57 AM »
Miami-Dade County reported at 33% positivity rate yesterday:
...but that is because we have the greatest testing in the world.  ;)
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2020, 10:02:54 AM »
Miami-Dade County reported at 33% positivity rate yesterday:
Staggering is the right word for that. Wild
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2020, 10:05:36 AM »
Staggering is the right word for that. Wild
The scary part is that is happening in many states.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2020, 12:32:37 PM »
But didn't we from the get go know that everyone would be infected?

Let's assume the first cases were begging of February?

It's been nearly 6 months. They need to get the infection rates down and slow the spread to avoid a repeat of NY etc but what exactly are you proposing ?!?!

 I was all for lockdown and caution but it's not realistic, it's been 6 months.

Wear a mask, keep distance, wash your hands responsible.

Even my most cautious friends get this. Will we all get it? You can be responsible.

Responsible hand washing. Avoid crowd's, wear a mask .

Shabbat is a Challange, but even there I mean try to space out, have good AC filters, cover any cough's or sneezes, keep the count low.

I'm sorry but even me, im not staying home for 50 shabbats, that's 100 meals alone.

I don't want the virus, I should test for antibodies, who knows if I had it?

I don't want long term damage, I have enough issues as is.

But locking myself up for a year won't make me happier.




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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2020, 12:40:05 PM »
There's nothing the government can do to stop this entirely. Backyard parties are probably spreading it.

So now it's a nanny state? Call the cops? That should help the BLM movement...

I had to go yesterday to laundromat, it's Miami style so mostly open.

Some were wearing masks pulled down to chin, some weren't.

What should I do Go lecture  everybody? Call 911?

I put my wash in far from them and got the heck out.

So what are you going to do now close all the laundromat because somebody didn't wear a mask?

And since I'm anyways supposed to stay home I do it rashbi style? Naked all day ?!?

For a man who goes for Democrats, @CountValentine  has little idea how the lower class function.

They'd probably save $ eating at home, but many of these people survive on fast food takeout and cheap kitchen style stuff.

And the kids would go crazy if they can't go out.

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2020, 12:40:45 PM »
Staggering is the right word for that. Wild
No no, don’t you know it’s only because they’re expanding testing? The only thing that matters is percentage.. no that doesn’t work.. the only thing that matters is total numbers.. no that doesn’t work either.. the only thing that matters is the hospitalization rate.. oh that doesn’t work now... death rate.. no?... oh but it was only about flattening the curve...
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2020, 12:42:20 PM »
But didn't we from the get go know that everyone would be infected?

Let's assume the first cases were begging of February?

It's been nearly 6 months. They need to get the infection rates down and slow the spread to avoid a repeat of NY etc but what exactly are you proposing ?!?!

 I was all for lockdown and caution but it's not realistic, it's been 6 months.

Wear a mask, keep distance, wash your hands responsible.

Even my most cautious friends get this. Will we all get it? You can be responsible.

Responsible hand washing. Avoid crowd's, wear a mask .

Shabbat is a Challange, but even there I mean try to space out, have good AC filters, cover any cough's or sneezes, keep the count low.

I'm sorry but even me, im not staying home for 50 shabbats, that's 100 meals alone.

I don't want the virus, I should test for antibodies, who knows if I had it?

I don't want long term damage, I have enough issues as is.

But locking myself up for a year won't make me happier.
Have you seen anywhere outside of the US? They’re not locked up but guess what? No virus.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2020, 12:52:00 PM »
@chevron That's a lot to process... Let me try to clarify.

I don't want the state locked down. I do want them to take the virus seriously and to tell the truth to the people they answer to. I don't want them to make life impossible for residents. I do want them to impose restrictions that make it less attractive to tourists for a while. I don't want a nanny state, but I do want a regulatory environment that encourages prioritizing the public's safety. Most of all, I want a unified voice from all public officials saying, "this is not a joke, please take it seriously." Because when it turns into a political sh!tshow, people tune out and just dismiss anything Covid-related as "someone else's politics."
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2020, 12:54:51 PM »
@chevron That's a lot to process... Let me try to clarify.

I don't want the state locked down. I do want them to take the virus seriously and to tell the truth to the people they answer to. I don't want them to make life impossible for residents. I do want them to impose restrictions that make it less attractive to tourists for a while. I don't want a nanny state, but I do want a regulatory environment that encourages prioritizing the public's safety. Most of all, I want a unified voice from all public officials saying, "this is not a joke, please take it seriously." Because when it turns into a political sh!tshow, people tune out and just dismiss anything Covid-related as "someone else's politics."

They said it's not a joke... And you think 20 year olds are listening? Or 30 year olds?

People just Wana live.. it's not a thing of the times, people also kept their normal lives up during wars.

As for tourism, it's 93 and feels like 105.. what nut job will visit ?

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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2020, 12:59:08 PM »
They said it's not a joke... And you think 20 year olds are listening? Or 30 year olds?

People just Wana live.. it's not a thing of the times, people also kept their normal lives up during wars.

As for tourism, it's 93 and feels like 105.. what nut job will visit ?

Listen to anything DeSantis has said. It all screams, "it's being overblown!"

As for tourism, our state is FULL. And Disney is still opening this week.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2020, 02:35:00 PM »
For a man who goes for Democrats, @CountValentine  has little idea how the lower class function.
If you believe any of this you are clueless. FL is a disaster and getting worse.
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Re: What is FL hiding?
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2020, 03:31:23 PM »
If we’re lucky - we got right to the brink of disaster (in terms of hospitals being overrun and increased mortality due to sheer overwhelmed systems) and the cases decrease naturally with time and burning itself out. If we’re unlucky - we are in for a very scary next few months. I hope and think the former will be the case, it is entirely feasible that the latter will occur. The prudent thing to do at this point is shut things down (here in the high prevalence zones) until things are somewhat under better control. Not forever, but for some reasonable amount of time until hospitals and cases decrease to a scientifically safer level.