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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #300 on: July 19, 2020, 12:33:43 PM »
Ok, making progress, is it not easily verifiable that masks were mandatory?
Which one would make a difference, whether masks were mandated or whether they were worn?
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #301 on: July 19, 2020, 12:33:48 PM »
That wasn’t the question, the question was if masks were in higher usage in Brazil than elsewhere. I’m far from convinced, but please do present any evidence you may have.

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #302 on: July 19, 2020, 12:35:30 PM »
Which one would make a difference, whether masks were mandated or whether they were worn?
Once you agree it's the law, only then can you argue what happened, I'm willing to consider that, but the question at hand was what is the law, and some of you were simply in denial.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #303 on: July 19, 2020, 12:35:36 PM »
You're being stubborn. You twisted my words and keep doing so, and frankly I'm shocked, I was quite clear, over and over what I meant in regards to fear.
Classic. Strawman. Again. And. Again.
Beneath you, and I honestly have much respect for you generally and your arguing tactics, but here you shock me.
Brazil had mandated mask across most of it, I don't work for anyone, and if it's so easily Google-able I don't feel the need to find you a link that water is wet, if you want to doubt me, do so, but don't put words in my mouth and strawman them, c'mon.
Yes and each explanation leads to the same place. NY and NJ also mandated mask use. How many masks do you see in Lakewood?
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #304 on: July 19, 2020, 12:36:09 PM »
Once you agree it's the law, only then can you argue what happened, I'm willing to consider that, but the question at hand was what is the law, and some of you were simply in denial.
No the question is not the law at all. That is irrelevant
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #305 on: July 19, 2020, 12:36:39 PM »
Yes and each explanation leads to the same place. NY and NJ also mandated mask use. How many masks do you see in Lakewood?
Not like Brazil, only in stores etc...and Lakewood was highly compliant at the start, until it became obvious it made no sense here.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #306 on: July 19, 2020, 12:37:10 PM »
No the question is not the law at all. That is irrelevant
Goal post mover disputed that, you're only getting involved in this now.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #307 on: July 19, 2020, 12:43:48 PM »
Once you agree it's the law, only then can you argue what happened, I'm willing to consider that, but the question at hand was what is the law, and some of you were simply in denial.
That’s a blatant lie. You claimed that
Brazil, Mexico, California, highest mask usage out there. Don't look good for masks.
I said I don’t think that’s true (regardless of whether your argument would be relevant). Who said anything about whether there was a law?
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #308 on: July 19, 2020, 12:45:34 PM »
Goal post mover disputed that, you're only getting involved in this now.

I think you need to look back at who mentioned mandates.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #309 on: July 19, 2020, 12:46:37 PM »
Goal post mover disputed that, you're only getting involved in this now.
Nobody moved the goal posts but you.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #310 on: July 19, 2020, 12:47:06 PM »
That’s a blatant lie. You claimed thatI said I don’t think that’s true (regardless of whether your argument would be relevant). Who said anything about whether there was a law?
You disputed the law! I based my statement on the law, maybe I'm wrong, but you need to argue that, not move goalposts
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #311 on: July 19, 2020, 12:48:54 PM »
You disputed the law! I based my statement on the law,
ANd then assumed everyone else was doing the same.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #312 on: July 19, 2020, 12:49:19 PM »
You disputed the law! I based my statement on the law, maybe I'm wrong, but you need to argue that, not move goalposts
Lies, I never disputed if there was a law. I disputed that they were in high usage relative to other countries. You still haven’t provided a source to that so for now I’m going to assume you were wrong about that.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #313 on: July 19, 2020, 12:50:12 PM »
ANd then assumed everyone else was doing the same.
But no one argued that!
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #314 on: July 19, 2020, 12:51:19 PM »
You know something is really messed up when I can't even get in a word.  :)
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #315 on: July 19, 2020, 12:51:56 PM »
But no one argued that!
Because you were the only one discussing the law with voices in your head.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #316 on: July 19, 2020, 12:51:57 PM »
Lies, I never disputed if there was a law. I disputed that they were in high usage relative to other countries. You still haven’t provided a source to that so for now I’m going to assume you were wrong about that.
Me:
That would suffice.
Oh, and it lots of Brazil masks were legally required since april.
you:
Granted! And this debate is over, because every doctor in the whole world agrees that they work.

That is true of most countries in the world, but IIRC the President of Brazil is vocally against masks and has withheld mask legislation. I don’t believe it’s true and would need to see a source to convince me.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #317 on: July 19, 2020, 12:52:25 PM »
But no one argued that!
I was very clear- I disputed the notion that Brazil had a higher rate of mask compliance than other countries. Your source that they do was that they had mask laws. That doesn’t change anything for me, because the President is very against mask wearing and I’ve seen plenty of reports on the low rate of compliance and none that say they were in use at high rates.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #318 on: July 19, 2020, 12:56:13 PM »
Me:you:
Right, that was in middle of a conversation. As I said there, the fact that there was a law mandating masks would just make it the same as most counties in the world. The President was vocally against masks, so I have reason to believe compliance was actually *lower* than elsewhere.

When I said “it’s”, I obviously was referring to the earlier statement you made (that mask usage was in high rates), not the most recent one, as I would then have said “that’s”.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #319 on: July 19, 2020, 12:57:56 PM »
A few do have masks on. Maybe we won't notice the guns for a peaceful protest.  ::)
These right wing Trump nut jobs are easy to spot.


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