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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2020, 10:26:54 AM »
Seat belts are proven to save lives.
They don't impede on my day to day living.
And no its not poured down our throats with executive orders from the kingly governors
1)Seatbelts will only save the life of the wearer, in the exceedingly rare event that they are in a life threatening car accident and the seatbelt is the differentiator.
2)They are no less an impediment than masks. Don’t you know that they can cause severe health issues to otherwise healthy people, just like masks?
3)They’re mandated in 49 states. For your whole life, every time you drive, not for a period of months when in close contact with others while there is a virus raging. And guess what? You can’t kill anyone else by not wearing one, let alone cause the hospitalizations and deaths of thousands of others.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #121 on: July 17, 2020, 10:40:47 AM »
Seat belts are proven to save lives.
They don't impede on my day to day living.
And no its not poured down our throats with executive orders from the kingly governors
You are absolutely correct-it was legislated with fines.
https://www.nj.gov/oag/hts/seatbelts.html
https://www.state.nj.us/oag/hts/downloads/CIOT_2019_Final_Report.pdf
https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3877_I1.HTM
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2020, 10:45:51 AM »
How to spot a racist liberal
Wrong thread.  ::)
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2020, 12:23:42 PM »
It does not matter what I post you will not accept it.
Again I will ask. What is your source masks don't work?
Everyone in the medical field wears them. It isn't because they don't work. Use a little common sense.
Mannny doctors say otherwise, my not young grandmother just went to her immunocompromised physician and he was not wearing a mask.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2020, 12:24:17 PM »
If you actually believe this, you really need to get out more.
True. But don't bite the strawman
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #125 on: July 17, 2020, 12:27:51 PM »
There is a ton of hard evidence that mask wearing prevents transmission of COVID-19 to others. There is also a lot of evidence that mask wearing protects the wearer from COVID-19, and there are decades of research proving that masks protect the wearer from most transmittable diseases.

Do you really want to see proof, or are you fighting masks because you don’t like them? The proof is everywhere. Find me a doctor or scientist who disagrees. Perhaps your personal doctor disagrees? Because I have yet to hear it from any doctor.
There are hundreds who doubt it, I'm not convinced they are ineffective, in just not convinced they are. And no, there really is no hard evidence as you say.
There are many doctors who wrote op-eds (which are ignored) questioning it, the same doctors who said NY hospitals treated patients wrong when that turned out to be right, but many lives were lost when they were ignored.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #126 on: July 17, 2020, 12:30:35 PM »
Um, does every single country in Europe count as proof? How about New Zealand? Every single country in Asia? No? You’ve only heard of NY and NJ?
Whatttt? Europe was destroyed. Asia? Wrecked, and keep getting resurges, but they treated them better in hospitals, so the death rate is lower.
NZ is the only place to effectively seal the country off, so far, and they will be closed to the outside indefinitely, once the virus is there, you lost.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2020, 12:37:52 PM »
Maybe there is no possibility. And yes, its difficult, and it induces fear, which is deadly.
The people in whom it induces fear must have comorbidities and were really facing issues before so we don't need to include them in the cheshbon
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2020, 12:43:18 PM »
Mannny doctors say otherwise, my not young grandmother just went to her immunocompromised physician and he was not wearing a mask.
Many doctors say don't vaccinate. You can't fix stupid.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2020, 12:43:54 PM »
If masks do /don't work, if they do /don't instill fear in meek lilly-hearted liberals, regardless :
They don't equate with lockdown and lost livelihood, they are the alternative to those horrors of lockdown

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #130 on: July 17, 2020, 12:44:23 PM »
Mannny doctors say otherwise, my not young grandmother just went to her immunocompromised physician and he was not wearing a mask.

that doctor also smokes?

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #131 on: July 17, 2020, 12:52:41 PM »
that doctor also smokes?
No, that was the doctor wearing the mask.

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2020, 12:54:10 PM »
The people in whom it induces fear must have comorbidities and were really facing issues before so we don't need to include them in the cheshbon
/s
it's a constant reminder of the virus and to panic about it, human instinct.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2020, 12:54:52 PM »
No, that was the doctor wearing the mask.
hope the mask didn't catch fire

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2020, 12:57:32 PM »
that doctor also smokes?
Many doctors say don't vaccinate. You can't fix stupid.
did you consider the possibility that he is perhaps right? Just because it doesn't fit your narrative  doesn't mean he's an idiot, maybe the ones wearing the masks are the idiots, you're just trying to win by shaming anyone who doesn't swallow the garbage youre being served and so badly crave, shaming only works for the weak, and the left, an argument I'll take, this is just after reaching the bottom of the barrel, you're digging the ground underneath it
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #135 on: July 17, 2020, 01:00:35 PM »
it's a constant reminder of the virus and to panic about it, human instinct.
You have a 140k+ dead from this pandemic in our country and getting worse. People need to face this fact and do something to stop it. If masks are a constant reminder of this fact then that alone is a reason to wear them.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #136 on: July 17, 2020, 01:01:10 PM »
Wrong thread.  ::)
Didn't want to get yelled at for opening a new thread :)

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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #137 on: July 17, 2020, 01:04:47 PM »
did you consider the possibility that he is perhaps right?
Yes but after listening to the experts, evidence out there and among other things came to the conclusion they are wrong.
Now the results will be drastically different depending if one group is wrong over the other. You are willing to bet lives on it, I am not!!!
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #138 on: July 17, 2020, 01:05:56 PM »
Didn't want to get yelled at for opening a new thread :)
It is a lost cause. The Kool-Aid drinkers could not accept the fact about Trump supporters so they pull this mask non-sense.
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Re: How can you spot a Trump supporter?
« Reply #139 on: July 17, 2020, 01:06:28 PM »
Mannny doctors say otherwise, my not young grandmother just went to her immunocompromised physician and he was not wearing a mask.
Name one. Name one doctor who disputes that masks are effective at preventing transmission from an infected COVID patient.

There are many reasons why a specific doctor wouldn’t be wearing a mask under specific circumstances- he may have antibodies and feel they’re effective, he may be in a place that is known not to be currently infected, etc. Did she ask?

Whatttt? Europe was destroyed. Asia? Wrecked, and keep getting resurges, but they treated them better in hospitals, so the death rate is lower.
NZ is the only place to effectively seal the country off, so far, and they will be closed to the outside indefinitely, once the virus is there, you lost.
Most countries in Europe and Asia managed to completely crush the curve and have prevented any resurgences. That is *without* losing many lives, some with barely any. Do you not know this? Do you need specific examples? I can easily name 10.
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