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How Will You Vote In November?

Trump
85 (70.2%)
Biden
9 (7.4%)
Undecided
3 (2.5%)
3rd Party
0 (0%)
Not voting, don't like the choices
6 (5%)
Not voting, my vote won't make a difference due to my location anyway
16 (13.2%)
Ineligible to vote
2 (1.7%)

Total Members Voted: 120

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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »
OK? Is it a good thing that he accelerated the process by decades?
So the left went bananas because they couldn't bully him the way they did to every other rino. So they pull the most egregious hoaxes and crimes against him and even respectable people in his circle, (Kavanaugh, Flynn). When he further refuses to be bullied he is labeled divisive.

Did you see the media's labeling of the July 4th speech? DIVISIVE! When you say something principled that 'cancel chulent' disagrees with and has no logical response to, they flame hate and blame it on him.

He may be a moron, jerk and ego maniac (SCUMBAG), but I don't think the division is his fault.

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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #141 on: July 12, 2020, 06:58:00 PM »
Anti fox doesn't mean anti establishment there were alot of right wing R who moved on from basic conservatism that was all talk nothing doing  to right wing popular nationalism and wanted trump once he came popular with the base. FOX only said what they wanted you to hear.
LOL.
I don't watch FOX or CNN or any other network. I use my own brain and come to my own conclusions and don't need to watch a documentary with an agenda to tell me how to think.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #142 on: July 12, 2020, 06:59:58 PM »
So the left went bananas because they couldn't bully him the way they did to every other rino. So they pull the most egregious hoaxes and crimes against him and even respectable people in his circle, (Kavanaugh, Flynn). When he further refuses to be bullied he is labeled divisive.

Did you see the media's labeling of the July 4th speech? DIVISIVE! When you say something principled that 'cancel chulent' disagrees with and has no logical response to, they flame hate and blame it on him.

He may be a moron, jerk and ego maniac (SCUMBAG), but I don't think the division is his fault.
Glad you look at this objectively.  :)
I listen to his 4th of July speech before a group that wasn't SD or wearing masks for the most part. What part of his speech did he try and heal this country instead of divide it?
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2020, 07:00:24 PM »
Every company is on the social change warpath this year. It's nothing like it was under BO and you know that.

I don't listen to talking points, I watch the data. Nearly every other country did better against COVID19 than the US. And we're not even close to containing it, we will lose countless more lives before it's over. There is plenty of fault to go around and it certainly doesn't all fall on DJT, but when the CDC finally came clean and admitted that masks save lives (obvious from all data), our leader said he would never wear a mask and it set off a culture war. This is leadership? Do you think HRC would have said that?

Never mind the "miraculously disappear" nonsense that he spewed...
I don’t fully agree, but I really don’t want to drag this into another corona discussion.
Hopefully what will be remembered is the trump economy pre corona( and who has the ability to navigate economy post corona)
His court picks, most of his foreign policy( who remembers isis) and what he has done standing up for religious rights in this country

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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2020, 07:00:29 PM »
but I don't think the division is his fault.
I don't subscribe to most of what the left says about him, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2020, 07:01:16 PM »
It was a simple question and I am not in the mood for pretzels right now.  :)
What does giving us a SCOTUS that you might disagree with have to do with being a decent person?

I was just trying to play politics with you.  ;)

My real answer was answer #1 (which you didn't dispute, nor did you dispute the "read my lips" issue).
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #146 on: July 12, 2020, 07:01:22 PM »
My understanding is limited, but I think 2020 may be a turning point for US politics. At this point it appears likely that the DNC will have a sweeping victory (the question is no longer if Texas is in play for Biden, but if TX is still in play for Trump). There is overwhelming popular support to revamp the electoral college system to better represent the popular vote, which will in turn push social conservative values out of the American lexicon when it becomes impossible to win elections with them.
2020 will be a turning point for much more than US politics, but agreed.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #147 on: July 12, 2020, 07:03:32 PM »
2020 will be a turning point for much more than US politics, but agreed.
Fair enough. Hopefully the positive changes will make up for part of the suffering.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #148 on: July 12, 2020, 07:03:38 PM »
I don’t fully agree, but I really don’t want to drag this into another corona discussion.
Hopefully what will be remembered is the trump economy pre corona( and who has the ability to navigate economy post corona)
His court picks, most of his foreign policy( who remembers isis) and what he has done standing up for religious rights in this country
Fair, but he likely lost my vote with his (horrendous IMHO) Corona and Floyd response.
But we'll see. Biden has been turning hard left and that's very disappointing to see.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #149 on: July 12, 2020, 07:04:01 PM »
I was just trying to play politics with you.  ;)

My real answer was answer #1 (which you didn't dispute, nor did you dispute the "read my lips" issue).
1 - That is correct but doesn't matter.
2 - That doesn't disqualify him from being a decent person.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #150 on: July 12, 2020, 07:04:05 PM »
Checking in 2 hrs and 100 posts later, has anyone convinced @Dan yet? 😜

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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #151 on: July 12, 2020, 07:05:04 PM »
Fair, but he likely lost my vote with his (horrendous IMHO) Corona and Floyd response.
But we'll see. Biden has been turning hard left and that's very disappointing to see.
Does Biden’s obvious mental health issues play a factor?

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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #152 on: July 12, 2020, 07:05:44 PM »
Does Biden’s obvious mental health issues play a factor?
He has "mental health" issues?
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #153 on: July 12, 2020, 07:06:20 PM »
While the Trump admin was as bad as humanly possible from a public health perspective, economically thus far they have managed Corona very well. They seem to have struck the perfect balance between supporting the economy & risking soaring inflation.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #154 on: July 12, 2020, 07:06:26 PM »
Does Biden’s obvious mental health issues play a factor?
They do, though I'm not convinced DJT is mentally all there either. I look forward to the debates though.

In short, this is pick your poison all over again. That's very depressing.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #155 on: July 12, 2020, 07:06:30 PM »
2 - That doesn't disqualify him from being a decent person.

I beg to differ on that. It's called lying in order to get elected.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #156 on: July 12, 2020, 07:07:46 PM »
I beg to differ on that. It's called lying in order to get elected.
We disagree on if he lied. He probably believed it at the time.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #157 on: July 12, 2020, 07:11:29 PM »
In short, this is pick your poison all over again. That's very depressing.

Just a little more potent this time around. Thinking about a lot of this could be depressing. The only way out is to focus on doing whatever good each of us can do wherever we might have influence.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #158 on: July 12, 2020, 07:12:11 PM »
We disagree on if he lied. He probably believed it at the time.

If he believed it, then it's an entirely different problem.
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Re: How Will You Vote In November?
« Reply #159 on: July 12, 2020, 07:12:48 PM »
LOL.
I don't watch FOX or CNN or any other network. I use my own brain and come to my own conclusions and don't need to watch a documentary with an agenda to tell me how to think.

Were do you get information for your brain to process all this stuff?

DDF fourms?

According to you trump should not have gotten any big indorcements but he did for a reason way before he was guaranteed to win the primaries.

Now please process this information.