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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2020, 02:52:09 PM »
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https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8545&st=&pgnum=167

You mean 3, you even quoted yourself 3, not 4. Sheina is spelled with 1 yid & an alef at the end as a yiddish name not a tanach name

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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2020, 02:53:19 PM »
Pardon my ignorance, but what makes one spelling more correct than another? Aside for names that are actually written in Tanach, why can't you spell it as you wish, like you would with an English name?

Because if you write on a get PEEBEEEFF instead of PBF the get is no good. And if the woman has kids later on with someone else its a problem :)

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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2020, 02:57:05 PM »
You mean 3, you even quoted yourself 3, not 4. Sheina is spelled with 1 yid & an alef at the end as a yiddish name not a tanach name

Despite what I wrote and quoted above, it seems like Sheina is with two yuds:



Unless it's just a bad image, and there's only one yud there, just like שינדיל has one yud.
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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2020, 02:57:27 PM »
You mean 3, you even quoted yourself 3, not 4. Sheina is spelled with 1 yid & an alef at the end as a yiddish name not a tanach name
That’s what I thought from the above as well. My sister actually spells her name like #2

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2020, 02:57:57 PM »
You mean 3, you even quoted yourself 3, not 4. Sheina is spelled with 1 yid & an alef at the end as a yiddish name not a tanach name
That’s what I thought from the above as well. My sister actually spells her name like #2

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2020, 02:59:10 PM »
That’s what I thought from the above as well. My sister actually spells her name like #2

Your location kind of explains that. As I said:

Don't ever bother with clueless Israelis that have no idea how to spell or pronounce anything properly.
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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2020, 03:00:13 PM »
(He then proceeded to take a swig of what was ostensibly whiskey but looked suspiciously like water from my vantage point)
Vodka?
Despite what I wrote and quoted above, it seems like Sheina is with two yuds:



Unless it's just a bad image, and there's only one yud there, just like שינדיל has one yud.
A few lines down it's spelled with 1 yud
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2020, 03:09:09 PM »
Vodka? A few lines down it's spelled with 1 yud

its spelled with one yid :)
Same as Sheindel etc. Technically its very similar other than the Dalet, Lamed & one has an alef..

Again, yiddish names end with an alef in tanach it ends with a hei. The ONLY place where you will find a name with a hei which can go either way is Akiva... Spelled with an alef as its not a tanach name but in Yerushalmi its spelled with a hei at the end hence the sefer Ohr Zarua named after the sofei tevos.. see the 7th paragraph on this link: http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/peninim/archives/reeh68.htm 

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish names
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2020, 03:10:50 PM »
Attention mods. Can the thread title be corrected to "Correct spelling of Yiddish names" rather than "Yiddish translation please!" to better reflect the way we derailed the thread.
FTFY

What is the source of the pages you're posting?

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2020, 03:11:01 PM »
While on this topic.. I once heard that the name Beila (Technically Liba too) is the roshei teivos for:

Baruch hashem leolam amen. beis yid lamed alef

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2020, 03:13:29 PM »
Another very popular name in our family that I dont think the spelling & pronunciation goes together but I havent seen it spelled wrong too many times is Mechel. Mem, yid, chuf, lamed.   

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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2020, 03:15:02 PM »
Because if you write on a get PEEBEEEFF instead of PBF the get is no good. And if the woman has kids later on with someone else its a problem :)

So just keep one consistent spelling throughout your lifetime and you're good to go.   

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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2020, 03:16:53 PM »
A few lines down it's spelled with 1 yud

Which probably means it's a different name with different pronunciation, which might explain why Sheina is exceptionally spelled with two yuds, in order to differentiate from Sheena (?).
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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2020, 03:21:09 PM »
The ONLY place where you will find a name with a hei which can go either way is Akiva...
It seems like it's sometimes done with Yehuda as well (possibly because of R' Yuda in the yerushalmi)

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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish names
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2020, 03:24:05 PM »
FTFY

What is the source of the pages you're posting?

Understanding the spelling and origin might help with understanding the meaning/etymology.

As I've said above (and I've also posted links to Hebrewbooks.org) I am quoting קב נקי.
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Re: Yiddish translation please!
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2020, 03:34:39 PM »
Which probably means it's a different name with different pronunciation, which might explain why Sheina is exceptionally spelled with two yuds, in order to differentiate from Sheena (?).
Sheina is 1 yud.
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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2020, 03:38:03 PM »
While on this topic.. I once heard that the name Beila (Technically Liba too) is the roshei teivos for:

Baruch hashem leolam amen. beis yid lamed alef
Is there just 1 yud in Bayla?
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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2020, 03:42:58 PM »
Is there just 1 yud in Bayla?
According to this discussion, yes.
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Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2020, 03:43:33 PM »
Your location kind of explains that. As I said:
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Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2020, 03:52:30 PM »
While on this topic.. I once heard that the name Beila (Technically Liba too) is the roshei teivos for:

Baruch hashem leolam amen. beis yid lamed alef
I've heard from one of the rabbonim from Washington Heights that the origin of Baila is from belle (French for beautiful).
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