Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names

[Chapshnell]

No, as I never learned Hilchis Gittin thoroughly, so I couldn't show a source either way.

But I know that R Leib Malin and R' Chaim Stuchiner, off the top of my head, spelled with 2. That suffices for me to know that it's not as open and shut like you guys are suggesting.

Until you refute it with a halachic source in writing its an opinion.

[Chapshnell]

No, as I never learned Hilchis Gittin thoroughly, so I couldn't show a source either way.

But I know that R Leib Malin and R' Chaim Stuchiner, off the top of my head, spelled with 2. That suffices for me to know that it's not as open and shut like you guys are suggesting.

ארי׳ ליב מ....

His own signature!

[moish]

Until you refute it with a halachic source in writing its an opinion.

There's this, which leaves open the possibility of spelling with two.

https://dinonline.org/2018/06/10/ketuba-what-is-the-correct-way-to-write-the-name-leib-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%91-%D7%90%D7%95-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%99%D7%91/

[ExGingi]

There's this, which leaves open the possibility of spelling with two.

https://dinonline.org/2018/06/10/ketuba-what-is-the-correct-way-to-write-the-name-leib-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%91-%D7%90%D7%95-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%99%D7%91/

The irony

[Chapshnell]

The irony

Lol what a joke. Hes saying by chasidim because there is more of a dagush on the yidden its spelled with 2 yids. Lol, one of the biggest after the baal shem tov was the holy sanzer ruv. He writes to spell it with one yid.

[moish]

Lol what a joke. Hes saying by chasidim because there is more of a dagush on the yidden its spelled with 2 yids. Lol, one of the biggest after the baal shem tov was the holy sanzer ruv. He writes to spell it with one yid.

Careful. You are talking about one of the biggest dayanim in Jerusalem. And not sure why you think he needs to be beholden to the Sanzer Rov.

[ExGingi]

Lol what a joke. Hes saying by chasidim because there is more of a dagush on the yidden its spelled with 2 yids. Lol, one of the biggest after the baal shem tov was the holy sanzer ruv. He writes to spell it with one yid.

As long as be is spelled with two ees

[Chapshnell]

Careful. You are talking about one of the biggest dayanim in Jerusalem. And not sure why you think he needs to be beholden to the Sanzer Rov.

Noone is saying anything anti anyone. What I am saying is that if youre going to say that chasidim might spell it with 2 yidden then know that the biggest recent chasidishe posek on names the holy sanzer ruv said to spell it with one yid.

[yelped]

I think that most people were not makpid in every day use in the spelling of their names, regardless if for gittin and kiddishin they were. I've seen the Kamarna spell his name and his father's name differently in various letters. Nevermind figuring out which names was a nickname and which one was actually a given name.

[Chapshnell]

I think that most people were not makpid in every day use in the spelling of their names, regardless if for gittin and kiddishin they were. I've seen the Kamarna spell his name and his father's name differently in various letters. Nevermind figuring out which names was a nickname and which one was actually a given name.

What was the name?

[yelped]

What was the name?

R'Yitzchok (Isaac) Yehuda Yechiel (mechel) Ben R' Aleksander Sender

[Chapshnell]

R'Yitzchok (Isaac) Yehuda Yechiel (mechel) Ben R' Aleksander Sender

I was thinking if its reb aizikel kamarna. Isaac is a nickname for Yitzchok & Usually Mechel goes after Yechiel. Same as “itche” is a nickname for yitzchok.

Thanks!

[Chapshnell]

Having said this Isaac is its own name not davka tied to Yitzchok.

[zh cohen]

Unfortunately, as I had mentioned, she was born here in the states, and we don't have great info on where exactly her parents came from (my great grandparents).

Based on this:

Not sure if this helps
I typed in hebrew ציצינו and a few isreali names came up

It seems to be a Gruzini (Georgian) name.

[hockyfan]

Based on this:
It seems to be a Gruzini (Georgian) name.

Not sure I completely follow... Could you explain a bit more?

Thanks!

[zh cohen]

Not sure I completely follow... Could you explain a bit more?

Thanks!

When searching " ציצינו " several people come up. Their last names seem to indicate that they come from Georgia (the country, not the state) or that region. I am suggesting that if your grandmother's name is ציצינו (and it's not a nickname for something else) is might be an indication that your great grandparents came from that part of Europe as well.

[ExGingi]

Based on this:
It seems to be a Gruzini (Georgian) name.

Except that
1. ציצינו seems to be a male name.
2. OP spelled it in English "Tzizinu" which I would think is a transcription of ציזינו.

The research done on this thread leads me to believe that it is some kind of Slavic version of Sarah along the lines of צערטל.

[hockyfan]

When searching " ציצינו " several people come up. Their last names seem to indicate that they come from Georgia (the country, not the state) or that region. I am suggesting that if your grandmother's name is ציצינו (and it's not a nickname for something else) is might be an indication that your great grandparents came from that part of Europe as well.

Thanks for the explanation - will definitely see if I can get more data on our family's origins.

Except that
1. ציצינו seems to be a male name.
2. OP spelled it in English "Tzizinu" which I would think is a transcription of ציזינו.

The research done on this thread leads me to believe that it is some kind of Slavic version of Sarah along the lines of צערטל.

Very interesting take... I would agree with your Hebrew phonetic spelling of her name - while I haven't seen any documents with her name written out, ציזינו is definitely the correct phonetic spelling in Hebrew.

[ExGingi]

Thanks for the explanation - will definitely see if I can get more data on our family's origins.
Very interesting take... I would agree with your Hebrew phonetic spelling of her name - while I haven't seen any documents with her name written out, ציזינו is definitely the correct phonetic spelling in Hebrew.

Which makes anything about ציצינו irrelevant.

It is pretty clear to me that ציזינו is a diminutive or endearing form of ציזא or ציזיא. IINM the Rachmestrivker had some great grandmother named חנה ציזא or חוה ציזא. Maybe you can try that angle to try and find out the etymology. Otherwise I would look to someone with Slavic language/names expertise to try and figure it out.

Also, what what her English name. Sometimes those were given to resemble sound, and sometimes actually had a connotation to the meaning.

[Chapshnell]

Also, what what her English name. Sometimes those were given to resemble sound, and sometimes actually had a connotation to the meaning.

correct, like Myra for Mira.