Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names

[hockyfan]

Hi everyone, thanks again for the help! We did find her ketubah and can confirm her Hebrew name was actually ציזיא - thoughts on the meaning? Can also confirm her parents did come from Russia.

Thanks!

[ExGingi]

Hi everyone, thanks again for the help! We did find her ketubah and can confirm her Hebrew name was actually ציזיא - thoughts on the meaning? Can also confirm her parents did come from Russia.

Thanks!

I don't have any additional insights on meaning other than what I previously posted, but did come across this interesting tidbit:

https://www.zusha.org.il/person/ציזיה-חנה-האדמורית-מטשרני-אוסטרה/

[biobook]

See if it appears in Alexander Beider's A dictionary of Ashkenazic given names : their origins, structure, pronunciation, and migrations.  I don't know where you are, but it's available in large libraries, like NYPL, Brooklyn PL, YU, Center for Jewish History.  Under the current circumstances, you might be able to ask a reference librarian to look it up for you.

[ExGingi]

See if it appears in Alexander Beider's A dictionary of Ashkenazic given names : their origins, structure, pronunciation, and migrations.  I don't know where you are, but it's available in large libraries, like NYPL, Brooklyn PL, YU, Center for Jewish History.  Under the current circumstances, you might be able to ask a reference librarian to look it up for you.

Rather expensive book, but thanks for the reference.

Looks like an answer might be found there based on https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnindex.htm#FeminineIndex

Nice review here: http://www.khazaria.com/beider.html
This cheaper book might be of help too: https://www.avotaynu.com/books.htm

[biobook]

I see there's a list of the names included in Beider's book, and both  Tsize and Tsizye appear.
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnindex.htm#FeminineIndex

You could buy it for $85, but I would go the library route!
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagn.htm

It comes in paperback too, $29
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/Handbook.htm

[good sam]

Interesting thread.

One of my daughters is named after a grandmother that has the name spelled on her stone with an א at the end. The name is not found in Tanach to my knowledge, but is not Yiddish.  We were told that with a ה would be the Hebrew spelling, with the א, Aramaic.  Perhaps similar to Akiva?

Another question: any Halachic issues (or other issues) when names are spelled the same, but pronounced differently, like Malka and Milka (מלכה)?

A few in this thread have mentioned Akiva as an example of a non-Hebrew name. Isn't Akiva actually spelled with a Hei nowadays?

[EliJelly]

Isn't Akiva actually spelled with a Hei nowadays?

What does that mean? Why should it be different nowadays?

[PlatinumGuy]

Isn't Akiva actually spelled with a Hei nowadays?

Only rarely in Modern Hebrew

[ExGingi]

I see there's a list of the names included in Beider's book, and both  Tsize and Tsizye appear.
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnindex.htm#FeminineIndex

You could buy it for $85, but I would go the library route!
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagn.htm

It comes in paperback too, $29
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/Handbook.htm

Paperback is listed as a 232 page subset of the full book.

I wonder what it includes out of:

Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names   242
  How to Use This Dictionary   243
  Cities and Towns Cited in the Dictionary   257
  Dictionary of Ashkenazic Masculine Names   258
  Dictionary of Ashkenazic Feminine Names   460
  Description of Indexes   595
  List of Masculine Name Variants and Derived Forms   596
  List of Feminine Name Variants and Derived Forms   608

https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagntoc.htm

[Yehudaa]

Anyone know how to spell the Yiddish name Pessah? I have a relative whose name I thought was Pessiah, but she insists it's Pessah though she has no idea how to spell it.

Name would've originated in Russia, maybe Barditchev.

TIA.

[ExGingi]

Anyone know how to spell the Yiddish name Pessah? I have a relative whose name I thought was Pessiah, but she insists it's Pessah though she has no idea how to spell it.

Name would've originated in Russia, maybe Barditchev.

TIA.

פעסא or פעשא?

https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8545&st=&pgnum=165

[Yehudaa]

פעסא or פעשא?

https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8545&st=&pgnum=165

פעסא. Thanks!

The Beis Shmuel seems to say mistamah b'yud if I'm reading it correctly, though I'm not sure what he means. Does he mean that it's really פעסיא?

[ExGingi]

פעסא or פעשא?

https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8545&st=&pgnum=165

https://www.sefaria.org/Pithei_Teshuva_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Even_HaEzer.129.34?lang=bi

Look at the end of this.

[ExGingi]

פעסא. Thanks!

The Beis Shmuel seems to say mistamah b'yud if I'm reading it correctly, though I'm not sure what he means. Does he mean that it's really פעסיא?

Maybe he's referring to פעסיל rather than פעסל.

[ExGingi]

I see there's a list of the names included in Beider's book, and both  Tsize and Tsizye appear.
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagnindex.htm#FeminineIndex

You could buy it for $85, but I would go the library route!
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/dagn.htm

It comes in paperback too, $29
https://www.avotaynu.com/books/Handbook.htm

If anyone has this book handy please PM.

[yerushabubby]

While on this topic.. I once heard that the name Beila (Technically Liba too) is the roshei teivos for:

Baruch hashem leolam amen. beis yid lamed alef

Thank you!  I was told that it is roshei teivos, but not for what, and I had always wondered.

[biobook]

If anyone has this book handy please PM.

@ExGingi I don't have a copy, and am not near a library that does.
If you're looking for a particular name, a reference librarian might be able to look it up for you, though I don't know how quickly they'll answer.  The book A dictionary of Ashkenazic given names : their origins, structure, pronunciation, and migrations / Alexander Beider is available at these two libraries:

National Library of Israel

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