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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2020, 06:14:34 PM »
I was being sarcastic...

It's like they've never read any of your posts before...
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2020, 06:43:40 PM »
It's like they've never read any of your posts before...
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #102 on: August 22, 2020, 09:13:19 PM »
8 new cases via OCHD.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2020, 10:56:11 AM »
Verified story: teenager tested positive last night (onset of symptoms yesterday morning), 10 days after being in contact with her friend who subsequently tested positive (this is their current working theory of when/how she caught it.)

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2020, 11:43:10 AM »
I think the spread in Lakewood is much more than the reported cases now, given how it spreads silently...

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #105 on: August 23, 2020, 12:29:04 PM »
Verified story: teenager tested positive last night (onset of symptoms yesterday morning), 10 days after being in contact with her friend who subsequently tested positive (this is their current working theory of when/how she caught it.)
If so that would be a rather long incubation period but not unheard of.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2020, 02:05:53 PM »
I think the spread in Lakewood is much more than the reported cases now, given how it spreads silently...
Why do you think so? If you're making that assumption based on what happened in early March, the situation is very different. I know someone who came back from LA before there was a single confirmed positive case in lakewood and wasn't feeling well, he asked an urgent care if he should be worried it may be corona and they laughed at him.
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #107 on: August 23, 2020, 02:16:29 PM »
Why do you think so? If you're making that assumption based on what happened in early March, the situation is very different. I know someone who came back from LA before there was a single confirmed positive case in lakewood and wasn't feeling well, he asked an urgent care if he should be worried it may be corona and they laughed at him.
You don't see a pattern? .... all the pro lockdown, fear mongers.... its worse then we think, there's more than we know... second wave, third wave... its all the same people. Everything is worse then we think, cases are underreported, none of it based on anything other then בויך סברה.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #108 on: August 23, 2020, 02:46:42 PM »
You don't see a pattern? .... all the pro lockdown, fear mongers.... its worse then we think, there's more than we know... second wave, third wave... its all the same people. Everything is worse then we think, cases are underreported, none of it based on anything other then בויך סברה.
Says Mr Cold-hard-facts.
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #109 on: August 23, 2020, 02:54:26 PM »
Says Mr Cold-hard-facts.
They can both be wrong
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #110 on: August 23, 2020, 03:04:48 PM »
Says Mr Cold-hard-facts.
I never said its facts. But to use a few isolated incidents and say there is a spread now is asinine.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #111 on: August 23, 2020, 03:18:53 PM »
It is not a few isolated cases! From hearing anecdotal reports it seems like there are currently hundreds of cases in the tri-state from community. BH it seems like there are no hospitalizations but I think everyone should reevaluate their behavior based on the new facts on the ground. IE, Maybe avoid prolonged exposure at  large weddings, maybe masks.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2020, 03:31:03 PM »
It is not a few isolated cases! From hearing anecdotal reports it seems like there are currently hundreds of cases in the tri-state from community. BH it seems like there are no hospitalizations but I think everyone should reevaluate their behavior based on the new facts on the ground. IE, Maybe avoid prolonged exposure at  large weddings, maybe masks.
You heard a couple anecdotal reports and extrapolated it too a couple hundred? Or you heard a couple hundred anecdotes

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #113 on: August 23, 2020, 04:11:47 PM »
9 new cases yesterday via OCHD.

Definite upward trend over the past 2 weeks.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #114 on: August 23, 2020, 07:27:21 PM »
I never said its facts. But to use a few isolated incidents and say there is a spread now is asinine.
Absolutely, but for someone who said 20 a week should make people pay attention it seems strange that when there are 35 a week in a much smaller population you are dismissing it.
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #115 on: August 23, 2020, 08:11:53 PM »
You don't see a pattern? .... all the pro lockdown, fear mongers.... its worse then we think, there's more than we know... second wave, third wave... its all the same people. Everything is worse then we think, cases are underreported, none of it based on anything other then בויך סברה.

Which part do you think is wrong? There isn't more than we know? It's not worse than we may have thought? Those aren't boich svaros, they are facts that are played out every day. We learn more every day. The long-term impacts that are being documented are worse than how we thought this virus would impact milder or asymptomatic cases, especially in younger (under 50) demographics.

The other stuff... I dare you to show me the last post on here advocating for a lockdown. As for the second and third (?) waves, they are brought down in context with the way seasonal viruses work, as well as historical data from previous pandemics. Hardly a boich svara.

ETA: cases being underreported is also documented fact. It's usually brought down to show how many more people had it already than we thought, so we must be closer to herd immunity than we think. It's also brought down in the context of certain agencies fudging numbers, which is also documented.
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2020, 12:13:27 PM »
Which part do you think is wrong? There isn't more than we know? It's not worse than we may have thought? Those aren't boich svaros, they are facts that are played out every day. We learn more every day. The long-term impacts that are being documented are worse than how we thought this virus would impact milder or asymptomatic cases, especially in younger (under 50) demographics.

The other stuff... I dare you to show me the last post on here advocating for a lockdown. As for the second and third (?) waves, they are brought down in context with the way seasonal viruses work, as well as historical data from previous pandemics. Hardly a boich svara.

ETA: cases being underreported is also documented fact. It's usually brought down to show how many more people had it already than we thought, so we must be closer to herd immunity than we think. It's also brought down in the context of certain agencies fudging numbers, which is also documented.

The only one who I recall promoting lockdown was @yaakov35 if BP reaches above 20 cases a week. :P
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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #117 on: August 24, 2020, 04:02:43 PM »
6 new cases via OCHD.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #118 on: August 24, 2020, 05:37:53 PM »
Another mesivta bochur in Lakewood from a large yeshivish camp was symptomatic and tested positive yesterday. This after the camp emailed the parents about another boy who tested positive as well.

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Re: Lakewood cases
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2020, 09:05:03 AM »
After seeing the letters come out from BP and Monsey, I'd think that we would see a similar letter in Lakewood, especially considering schools are starting this week. However, I do know that Lakewood doctors are now gun shy after the backlash Pesach time (about minyanim etc.), so who knows if we will actually see any public statement.