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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1840 on: September 30, 2020, 11:34:04 AM »
It's a good question.  I remember you asked it a few months ago, and at that time I tried to find an answer, but couldn't.  I'm not an immunologist, just remember some immunology from my introductory biology class and tried to read some more.  I looked again last night, and found a couple of more advanced immunology books online, and I think I can give you an answer.

But my laptop crashed and I'm allotted too few minutes on this family computer, so I may not be able to post it till late tonight or tomorrow.  If you can't wait that long, the short answer is No, it's not a good idea to get re-exposed, and Yes you should wear a mask.  So thinking about it was a good idea, but actually doing it... not so much.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1841 on: September 30, 2020, 02:13:17 PM »
I wonder if COVID is actually primarily transmitted through flatulence? Flatulence releases methane into the air. Masks would then actually have no impact on the spread (although they would definitely limit the impact of the flatulence on others).

Just another question that hasn’t been definitely settled by science just yet. Amazing how much we still don’t know.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1842 on: September 30, 2020, 02:50:52 PM »
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1843 on: September 30, 2020, 04:05:53 PM »
I wonder if COVID is actually primarily transmitted through flatulence? Flatulence releases methane into the air. Masks would then actually have no impact on the spread (although they would definitely limit the impact of the flatulence on others).

Just another question that hasn’t been definitely settled by science just yet. Amazing how much we still don’t know.

While you mean it in jest, it's a question I've seen pondered since the early days. There's a chance it can infect given that COVID is present and infectious in fecal matter.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1844 on: September 30, 2020, 04:40:49 PM »
While you mean it in jest, it's a question I've seen pondered since the early days. There's a chance it can infect given that COVID is present and infectious in fecal matter.

Ponder no more!

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1845 on: September 30, 2020, 04:43:20 PM »
Ponder no more!

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180514.shtml

From February, back when Covid didn't spread person to person and no one died in China.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1846 on: September 30, 2020, 04:49:02 PM »
From February, back when Covid didn't spread person to person and no one died in China.

True. However the research is based on older studies and not specifically tied to Covid-19.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1847 on: September 30, 2020, 04:49:37 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-29/antibody-cocktail-shows-promise-disney-cuts-jobs-virus-update

N.J. Town Sees 27% Jump
New Jersey reported a 27% positive rate of coronavirus tests in Lakewood, home to a large, tight-knit Orthodox Jewish community. The outbreak is contributing to New Jersey’s recent uptick. The statewide positivity rate is 3%, the highest in months.

Ocean County, home to Lakewood as well as many Jersey Shore towns, has a 5.4% positive rate.

Separately, the state has confirmed novel coronavirus outbreaks in 11 schools, Governor Phil Murphy said. In all, 43 individuals with links to the schools have tested positive, according to Judith Persichilli, the state health commissioner.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1848 on: September 30, 2020, 05:37:18 PM »
While you mean it in jest, it's a question I've seen pondered since the early days. There's a chance it can infect given that COVID is present and infectious in fecal matter.

Based on your Avatar, this avenue of research would be of interest to you.  ;)

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1849 on: September 30, 2020, 06:19:33 PM »
It’s scary to see the headlines in the APP, Star Ledger, NY Post, and a host of other newspapers about Orthodox Jews, infection rates, and noncompliance. Quotes from NJ state police of officers seeing lots of people in shuls without masks. We are almost bordering on התגרות באומות at this point.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1850 on: September 30, 2020, 06:26:19 PM »
It’s scary to see the headlines in the APP, Star Ledger, NY Post, and a host of other newspapers about Orthodox Jews, infection rates, and noncompliance. Quotes from NJ state police of officers seeing lots of people in shuls without masks. We are almost bordering on התגרות באומות at this point.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1851 on: September 30, 2020, 06:26:24 PM »
It’s scary to see the headlines in the APP, Star Ledger, NY Post, and a host of other newspapers about Orthodox Jews, infection rates, and noncompliance. Quotes from NJ state police of officers seeing lots of people in shuls without masks. We are almost bordering on התגרות באומות at this point.
Bordering? It's way past that.
Truly embarrassing.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1852 on: September 30, 2020, 06:29:16 PM »
A friend of mine has his father hospitalized for COVID in PA upon the recommendation of Shuki Berman. Somehow my friend is in touch with the CEO on a daily basis (I've seen emails). He relays that they are/will be rejecting patients from Lakewood because we refuse to comply with the law.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1853 on: September 30, 2020, 06:31:00 PM »
A friend of mine has his father hospitalized for COVID in PA upon the recommendation of Shuki Berman. Somehow my friend is in touch with the CEO on a daily basis (I've seen emails). He relays that they are/will be rejecting patients from Lakewood because we refuse to comply with the law.
Which hospital?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1854 on: September 30, 2020, 06:42:01 PM »
A friend of mine has his father hospitalized for COVID in PA upon the recommendation of Shuki Berman. Somehow my friend is in touch with the CEO on a daily basis (I've seen emails). He relays that they are/will be rejecting patients from Lakewood because we refuse to comply with the law.

HOP did this last time around as well.

They said they needed to conserve space for PA residents and so werent taking ANY NJ patients

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1855 on: September 30, 2020, 06:50:38 PM »
HOP did this last time around as well.

They said they needed to conserve space for PA residents and so werent taking ANY NJ patients

That was mentioned as well
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1856 on: September 30, 2020, 06:57:47 PM »
Bordering? It's way past that.
Truly embarrassing.
But we were all crying wolf a month ago.  ::)

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1857 on: September 30, 2020, 07:16:44 PM »
But we were all crying wolf a month ago.  ::)

Don't worry, there is...

 
Now many people are immune. There is heard immunity developing. There are barely any new cases in our community at all. \
Ya know, when one person hears they're immune and decides that it's over.
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« Reply #1858 on: September 30, 2020, 07:18:42 PM »
It’s scary to see the headlines in the APP, Star Ledger, NY Post, and a host of other newspapers about Orthodox Jews, infection rates, and noncompliance. Quotes from NJ state police of officers seeing lots of people in shuls without masks. We are almost bordering on התגרות באומות at this point.
To paraphrase @shaulyaakov, if only a fraction of the effort to combat anti semitism was used for actually not getting ourselves into a situation that brings it to the forefront. As @Lurker has been saying, as a community we are great at reacting, being proactive though not so much.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1859 on: September 30, 2020, 07:21:05 PM »
Ya know, when one person hears they're immune and decides that it's over.

I want a HT for that
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