Lakewood covid cases

[aygart]

I am speaking basically of one particular case where the patient was there for alike 24 hrs. Never got into an official room... So maybe once your settled in the official room things change. The patient asked for water multiple times 8hrs later no nurses and still never got water.  Ended up asking the doctor to discharge him..@bhoaem Choking can cause a heart attack do a quick Google search..

As i wrote, I can't speak to a specific case, but an overloaded emergency room is never the place you want to be. My father AH used to say how when he imagines gehinom it looks something like an NYC emergy room. You most definitely made a statement about general care which from what I am hearing is not true.

[aygart]

BREAKING: Previously unknown and unidentified group makes unsubstantiated claim of success.

Unfortunate that those two are trying to discredit and undermine the efforts of the askanim who are in contact with the governor . Dangerous games and an avla.

But the "VAAD linyonei hock v'anxiety of Hefkervelt" says.......

[ShimshonK]

There are a lot of politics going on in the schools. Besides for the schools, it seems many parents are upset about the school-wide testing.
Why is that?
Apparently, and I've even heard these words said, "ignorance is bliss".
Knowing someone has a positive, people will have to quarantine, but they'd rather not know.
Wild.

[S209]

There are a lot of politics going on in the schools. Besides for the schools, it seems many parents are upset about the school-wide testing.
Why is that?
Apparently, and I've even heard these words said, "ignorance is bliss".
Knowing someone has a positive, people will have to quarantine, but they'd rather not know.
Wild.

Welcome

[joe1234]

There are a lot of politics going on in the schools. Besides for the schools, it seems many parents are upset about the school-wide testing.
Why is that?
Apparently, and I've even heard these words said, "ignorance is bliss".
Knowing someone has a positive, people will have to quarantine, but they'd rather not know.
Wild.

lots of false positive's.. so people rather not quarantine when they dont really need to....

[S209]

lots of false positive's..

Source? There *are* lots of false negatives.

[yelped]

lots of false positive's.. so people rather not quarantine when they dont really need to....

We've heard that before..  Can you tell me how many false positives there are with regular (not rapid) tests?

[joe1234]

We've heard that before..  Can you tell me how many false positives there are with regular (not rapid) tests?

i was talking about regular not rapid. are schools doing rapid?

[S209]

i was talking about regular not rapid. are schools doing rapid?

What is your source that there are a lot of false positives? Hint: It’s simply a lie.

[joe1234]

What is your source that there are a lot of false positives? Hint: It’s simply a lie.

you are right i dont know of anyone personally but how do you know for certain that its not true? i defenitely wouldnt want to risk it...

[S209]

you are right i dont know of anyone personally but how do you know for certain that its not true? i defenitely wouldnt want to risk it...

Because I have read the data. Positive PCR tests are exceedingly accurate.

You know what’s worse than a false positive (which doesn’t really exist)? An undetected positive.

[joe1234]

Because I have read the data. Positive PCR tests are exceedingly accurate.

You know what’s worse than a false positive (which doesn’t really exist)? An undetected positive.

manufactured data? who are you trusting? the cdc?? undedected positive on a child is not a big deal...

[PlatinumGuy]

manufactured data? who are you trusting? the cdc?? undedected positive on a child is not a big deal...

Sigh.

[joe1234]

Sigh.

why is this a conspiracy when the cdc cant make up their mind??

[S209]

why is this a conspiracy when the cdc cant make up their mind??

Again, have you seen anything that *does* make you believe there are a lot of false positives? There are no two sides to this.

Children can and do infect adults.

[joe1234]

Again, have you seen anything that *does* make you believe there are a lot of false positives? There are no two sides to this.

Children can and do infect adults.

pretty weak argument imo... i dont think this rumor came out of the blue... if someone feels completely well and then finds out from a "possibly" non-reliable rapid test that hes positive, should his whole family quarantine now?? sounds crazy to me... definitely would make sense not to get tested in the first place...
afaik there were studies showing that children dont really infect others... simple google search shows that there are plenty of studies proving this... besided for the cdc who i dont trust faucci....

[Lurker]

pretty weak argument imo... i dont think this rumor came out of the blue... if someone feels completely well and then finds out from a "possibly" non-reliable rapid test that hes positive, should his whole family quarantine now?? sounds crazy to me... definitely would make sense not to get tested in the first place...
afaik there were studies showing that children dont really infect others...

Rumors come out of the blue all the time. And this one probably started with false positives on rapids and someone who didn't know the difference between rapid and PCR.

[joe1234]

Rumors come out of the blue all the time. And this one probably started with false positives on rapids and someone who didn't know the difference between rapid and PCR.

so you agree that rapids can be false?  are schools doing the pcr?? if so i may be comfortable with that.

[Dan]

so you agree that rapids can be false?

Yes, no chiddush here.

[Lurker]

so you agree that rapids can be false?  are schools doing the pcr?? if so i may be comfortable with that.

I don't know what schools are doing, but rapids can most definitely be false. Many (most?) places make you confirm with a PCR after a positive rapid.