Lakewood covid cases

[yuneeq]

Eh, I'm a relatively hard liner on COVID and 9 days vs. 10 days so far removed from symptoms, doesn't really bother me

I agree, but if it's only "no fever" for 7 days and there are other symptoms that's another story.

[YitzyS]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10). Dr. Shanik personally advises people to wait 14 days.

If there is truth to that, then it may be questionable if one should cut corners on the 10-day time frame.

[Lurker]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10). Dr. Shanik personally advises people to wait 14 days.

If there is truth to that, then it may be questionable if one should cut corners on the 10-day time frame.

IINM, 10 days is only with a negative PCR.

[Euclid]

Eh, I'm a relatively hard liner on COVID and 9 days vs. 10 days so far removed from symptoms, doesn't really bother me

I tend to agree with you, but only for people who I'd trust to understand the gravity of the situation.

[PlatinumGuy]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10).

That's true about 14 days from exposure while testing netgative, where the CDC says explicitly 14 days is ideal, but 7-10 is a practical compromise. We know for a fact there are cases that incubate for longer than 14 days, and Hong Kong has mandatory quarantine for 21 to try to prevent those cases from getting transmitting.

In terms of shedding virus after testing positive and/or presenting symptoms, the CDC rules conclusively that 10 days is sufficient, and I'm unaware of any data that demonstrates that to be untrue in the rarest of events.

IINM, 10 days is only with a negative PCR.

You can be with others after

At least 10 days since symptoms first appeared and
At least 24 hours with no fever without fever-reducing medication and
Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/isolation.html

[yitzgar]

Eh, I'm a relatively hard liner on COVID and 9 days vs. 10 days so far removed from symptoms, doesn't really bother me

I agree somewhat. I don't think it's right to cut corners, but just compare it to plenty of people in our communities that go out (mask less), once they don't have symptoms, even if it's just a day or two

[dasmo801]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10). Dr. Shanik personally advises people to wait 14 days.

If there is truth to that, then it may be questionable if one should cut corners on the 10-day time frame.

When I called his office last week, I was told that my kids can go back to school 10 days after onset of symptoms or if asymptomatic, 10 days after positive PCR, provided they are fever free.

[S209]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10). Dr. Shanik personally advises people to wait 14 days.

If there is truth to that, then it may be questionable if one should cut corners on the 10-day time frame.

It’s almost certain that whoever told you this is indeed confusing quarantine of exposed contacts with isolation of someone infected, as @PlatinumGuy suggested.

To the best of my knowledge there has never been a case worldwide shown to have transmitted virus more than 9 days in.

[Proisrael]

I've been told that Dr. Shanik is of the opinion that a patient sheds the virus for 14 days, and he says that the CDC only writes 10 because they know that nobody would listen to 14 days (and presumably the danger is mitigated after 10). Dr. Shanik personally advises people to wait 14 days.

If there is truth to that, then it may be questionable if one should cut corners on the 10-day time frame.

Israel requires 10 days from onset of symptoms (positive test) and 3 days symptom free. There is no requirement to test negative to be released.

[iwlw2]

IINM, 10 days is only with a negative PCR.

Actually currently the CDC suggests 7 days with a negative PCR may be enough. Of course note that masking though day 14 is imperative...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-options-to-reduce-quarantine.html

[AsherO]

Actually currently the CDC suggests 7 days with a negative PCR may be enough. Of course note that masking though day 14 is imperative...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-options-to-reduce-quarantine.html

But @Mordyk believes only half of what he reads, so he isolated for 5 days and masked for 7 (e.g. at his passport appointment)

[joe1234]

High risk person with COVID for 7 days, no fever, breathing is fine, is told by doctor that there is no reason at this point to get the antibody treatment. Is this the widely acceptable position?

[Lurker]

Actually currently the CDC suggests 7 days with a negative PCR may be enough. Of course note that masking though day 14 is imperative...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-options-to-reduce-quarantine.html

Regarding, leaving isolation after a confirmed infection, I was wrong. I confused the exposure and positive guidelines. Re the link you posted, that's for exposure. FWIW, three ID docs I went to for guidance after an exposure in my family all said that the CDC has been compromising on their guidelines in hopes that people will do something instead of nothing. The guidance I received was to avoid testing out and going the full 14 days if possible, and if I needed to test out, to take a PCR on day 7 and wait til day 10 even if it comes back negative.

[Lurker]

But @Mordyk believes only half of what he reads, so he isolated for 5 days and masked for 7 (e.g. at his passport appointment)

I know you're joking, but let's not make it worse than it is. It was Day 9, and with a mask. I'm not a fan, but making him out to be the Grim Reaper isn't cool, either.

[AsherO]

Regarding, leaving isolation after a confirmed infection, I was wrong. I confused the exposure and positive guidelines. Re the link you posted, that's for exposure. FWIW, three ID docs I went to for guidance after an exposure in my family all said that the CDC has been compromising on their guidelines in hopes that people will do something instead of nothing. The guidance I received was to avoid testing out and going the full 14 days if possible, and if I needed to test out, to take a PCR on day 7 and wait til day 10 even if it comes back negative.

All three doctors said the exact same thing? That's pretty impressive.

[Lurker]

All three doctors said the exact same thing? That's pretty impressive.

One told me not to test out under any circumstances. The other 2 have been pretty close in their Covid views throughout.

[Yehuda57]

All three doctors said the exact same thing? That's pretty impressive.

One might even say incredible.

[AsherO]

I know you're joking, but let's not make it worse than it is. It was Day 9, and with a mask. I'm not a fan, but making him out to be the Grim Reaper isn't cool, either.

Yes and no. When people say:

People have different opinions.  My opinion might be totally wrong, and I'm ok with that. But I definitely don't enjoy going back and forth

Then I reserve the right to be the same way.

[Lurker]

All three doctors said the exact same thing? That's pretty impressive.

One might even say incredible.

I'm sure it also helps that they knew I wasn't asking for heterim....

[Euclid]

I know you're joking, but let's not make it worse than it is. It was Day 9, and with a mask. I'm not a fan, but making him out to be the Grim Reaper isn't cool, either.

When someone's rhetoric has been to play it fast and loose with covid, they don't get the benefit of doubt that they're acting properly.