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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3945 on: April 09, 2021, 11:57:57 AM »
I am sure that when the doctors cousin got married he also went. That does not mean that they are condoning it or approve of it.

Maybe in Lakewood, not necessarily in other places.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3946 on: April 09, 2021, 11:58:41 AM »
IDK about the doctors, but many rabbanim participated in them.

L'aniyas daiti, posting a comment like this borders on L'fnei iver...
Google Sheet with Lakewood Covid numbers in profile for those interested.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3947 on: April 09, 2021, 01:18:27 PM »
Maybe in Lakewood, not necessarily in other places.
WHAT other places?
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Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3948 on: April 21, 2021, 12:13:44 AM »
https://jnews.us/robocall-attacking-chemed-on-promoting-covid-vaccines/

The chutzpah of someone who's clearly not part of the Lakewood community to spread this FUD.

ETA: this "news" website is hot garbage, even by frum news standards.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 01:17:25 AM by Euclid »

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3949 on: April 21, 2021, 01:24:42 PM »
https://jnews.us/robocall-attacking-chemed-on-promoting-covid-vaccines/

The chutzpah of someone who's clearly not part of the Lakewood community to spread this FUD.

ETA: this "news" website is hot garbage, even by frum news standards.
+10000 Just curious though, how do you know they are not from Lakewood, do you know who it is or is it because of the pronunciation?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3950 on: April 21, 2021, 01:38:45 PM »
because of the pronunciation
Yep, definitely not someone from here.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3951 on: April 21, 2021, 02:09:52 PM »
The chutzpah of someone who's clearly not part of the Lakewood community to spread this FUD.

It's disgusting regardless of who it is, they should be prosecuted IMHO.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3952 on: April 21, 2021, 02:12:01 PM »
It's disgusting regardless of who it is, they should be prosecuted IMHO.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3954 on: April 21, 2021, 02:26:48 PM »
ETA: this "news" website is hot garbage, even by frum news standards.
Looks like a Jewish version of Infowars
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3955 on: April 21, 2021, 02:29:45 PM »
Sorry, that doesn't include shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

Did you read the first paragraph in your link?

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"Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is a popular analogy for speech or actions made for the principal purpose of creating panic. The phrase is a paraphrasing of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s opinion in the United States Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States in 1919, which held that the defendant's speech in opposition to the draft during World War I was not protected free speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. The case was later partially overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot).[1]


Also see here
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/
 
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3956 on: April 21, 2021, 02:31:39 PM »
Did you read the first paragraph in your link?

I did, lets see the courts accept that defense when FUD like that causes people to die. I've already heard of several people who R"L died because they refused an available COVID vaccine due to FUD.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3957 on: April 21, 2021, 02:42:39 PM »
I did, lets see the courts accept that defense when FUD like that causes people to die. I've already heard of several people who R"L died because they refused an available COVID vaccine due to FUD.

Who would be responsible? The originator? Anyone who passes it along?
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3958 on: April 21, 2021, 04:21:21 PM »
Who would be responsible? The originator? Anyone who passes it along?

The person initiating robocalls should. I don't know the relationship between them and the person who made the recording, but they are likely co-conspirators...

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3959 on: April 23, 2021, 01:27:23 PM »
http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2021/04/lakewood-officials-concerned-not-enough.html

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An ad in the Vivaser daily today quoted all 4 of the Lakewood yeshiva poskim who said not to take the shot since it is a new vaccine there may be long term effects that are not yet known and therefore shev veeal taaseh
Anyone have a copy of this?