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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #740 on: September 09, 2020, 10:47:57 AM »
You are all taking it for granted that these measures would save lives. I’m betting that everyone is going to be exposed at some point. You can either drag it out in waves or get it over with. No difference  if 500 people are exposed each week on average for the next year in waves or if 25000 people are exposed now other than prolonged psychological torture with the former. You are seeing that play out in Israel.

The one caveat is if the healthcare system gets overwhelmed in option 2. Considering the current numbers that looks to be extremely remote.

Wearing masks and social distancing also lower the viral load people get, making the infections themselves less harmful. Additionally, as time goes on, better treatments become available, lessening the death toll and possibly the long-term impacts. And then we get to the length of time that antibodies confer immunity. There is absolutely nothing that says 25k people who get it right now cannot or will not get it again in a year.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #741 on: September 09, 2020, 11:37:39 AM »
It seems pretty short sighted to abandon all forms of common sense heath responsibility because we want to stick it to Democratic politicians. But here we are.
It’s pretty disgusting for you to say that and judge entire communities like that. You disagree with the way others are living based on direction from their community leaders. You should listen to yours and let them listen to theirs.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #742 on: September 09, 2020, 11:43:22 AM »
It’s pretty disgusting for you to say that and judge entire communities like that. You disagree with the way others are living based on direction from their community leaders. You should listen to yours and let them listen to theirs.
That's way too crazy, what would be the point of this if everyone can just follow their own leadership and not bash everyone else for not listening to theirs.  Would seem pointless.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #743 on: September 09, 2020, 11:44:38 AM »
Women, children, length of davening, additional singing. There are definitely differences.

Doesn't seem like you are really understanding Lakewood shuls.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #744 on: September 09, 2020, 11:55:22 AM »
Doesn't seem like you are really understanding Lakewood.

FTFY. I guess not.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #745 on: September 09, 2020, 12:03:18 PM »
Doesn't seem like you are really understanding Lakewood shuls.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #746 on: September 09, 2020, 12:13:36 PM »
Doesn't seem like you are really understanding Lakewood shuls.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #747 on: September 09, 2020, 12:17:22 PM »
Do guests not come for Yom Tov?

Not much for RH
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #748 on: September 09, 2020, 12:24:09 PM »
Doesn't seem like you are really understanding Lakewood shuls.
Yep, and same for most here, still doesn't stop them.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #749 on: September 09, 2020, 12:25:35 PM »
Not much for RH
+1, its ימים נוראים, not a social event, some people have their married kids who want to be at their yeshiva. That's about it.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #750 on: September 09, 2020, 12:28:33 PM »
The davening isn't longer? There isn't more singing?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #751 on: September 09, 2020, 12:29:10 PM »
The Cheder is telling anyone on their staff who's not feeling well to take off 2 weeks "but make sure you don't get tested". Heard this from a rebbe there.

A guy in BMG who's not feeling well was told to go back to his hometown (Passaic) if he wants to get tested "but don't get tested in Lakewood". Heard from his friend.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #752 on: September 09, 2020, 12:35:50 PM »
The davening isn't longer? There isn't more singing?
Davening is way longer, but almost no singing in any yeshivish place. And no women
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #753 on: September 09, 2020, 12:36:29 PM »
The Cheder is telling anyone on their staff who's not feeling well to take off 2 weeks "but make sure you don't get tested". Heard this from a rebbe there.

A guy in BMG who's not feeling well was told to go back to his hometown (Passaic) if he wants to get tested "but don't get tested in Lakewood". Heard from his friend.

Maybe the game plan is that the rabbeim should at least know the kids before they inevitably move to conferences.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #754 on: September 09, 2020, 12:37:26 PM »
Davening is way longer, but no singing in any yeshivish place. And no women

Maybe you don't consider it yeshivish enough, but there most definitely is singing during many of the piyutim in some batei medrash in BMG.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #755 on: September 09, 2020, 12:39:11 PM »
Maybe you don't consider it yeshivish enough, but there most definitely is singing during many of the piyutim in some batei medrash in BMG.
Not in the main minyanim. In any case its not a concert with hours of singing like more modern places.

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« Reply #756 on: September 09, 2020, 12:41:27 PM »
Not in the main minyanim. In any case its not a concert with hours of singing like more modern places.

I wouldn't call the Chassidish places modern. None of those in Lakewood?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #757 on: September 09, 2020, 12:42:05 PM »
Not in the main minyanim. In any case its not a concert with hours of singing like more modern places.
NME in minyanim in the Simcha Room, Bais Shalom, and the DR, not sure where that minyan is now. But most definitely not a concert.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #758 on: September 09, 2020, 12:43:23 PM »
Davening is way longer, but no singing in any yeshivish place. And no women
This does not accurately describe the majority of the places where people will be davening in Lakewood.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #759 on: September 09, 2020, 12:44:13 PM »
NME in minyanim in the Simcha Room, Bais Shalom, and the DR, not sure where that minyan is now. But most definitely not a concert.

The concerts aren't the problem. It's the more heimishe minyanim where everyone is singing.
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