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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #860 on: September 10, 2020, 02:44:18 PM »

Of people that work at banks? You can't be serious.
I'm referring to the community that traffics the bank.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #861 on: September 10, 2020, 03:06:01 PM »
I'm referring to the community that traffics the bank.
Pretty sure all experts agree that in order for covid to spread there has been prolonged exposure of atleast 15 minutes. How does that happen at a bank? And because people in the neighborhood have covid therefore they went to the bank with it and tellers should get it? I really don't understand you.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #862 on: September 10, 2020, 03:08:08 PM »
Look at the numbers! How can you be in denial?! LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!!!

A few days later...

The numbers are FAKE! There is a cover up! DONT LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!!!
“There will never be another outbreak! It’s been low for a while, and past performance is a guarantee of future results!

*reported numbers rise dramatically*

“There’s no community spread, and there are false positive!”

*memo goes out to please refrain from testing. Reported numbers drop, even as anecdotal evidence shoots up*

“See? Numbers dropped!”
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #863 on: September 10, 2020, 03:09:36 PM »
Pretty sure all experts agree that in order for covid to spread there has been prolonged exposure of atleast 15 minutes.

Where have you seen such a thing? I have not seen even one real source for that.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #864 on: September 10, 2020, 03:14:47 PM »

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #866 on: September 10, 2020, 03:31:36 PM »
I'm referring to when they started wearing masks and later.
You mean after all the susceptible people already got it?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #867 on: September 10, 2020, 03:32:58 PM »
28* new cases via OCHD.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #868 on: September 10, 2020, 03:33:41 PM »
Literally everywhere.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/public-health-recommendations.html
Individual who has had close contact (< 6 feet)** for ≥15 minutes***


https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/what-counts-as-coronavirus-covid-19-exposure--how-does-contact-tracing-identify-who-has-been-exposed-to-covid-19.h00-159383523.html
People who fulfill these criteria have an extremely elevated chance of having or developing COVID, so they need to be quarantined and monitored. This is a useful way to direct the limited resources available to trace and minimize contacts, and is a practical way to define who should and shouldn’t be quarantining. Otherwise, we get back to March, where everybody in a certain area has an extremely elevated chance of being a carrier and therefore must quarantine. This does not mean that either

A) If this occurred, they must become infected
or B) If this didn’t happen, you can’t get infected
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #869 on: September 10, 2020, 03:34:05 PM »
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #870 on: September 10, 2020, 03:38:03 PM »
People who fulfill these criteria have an extremely elevated chance of having or developing COVID, so they need to be quarantined and monitored. This is a useful way to direct the limited resources available to trace and minimize contacts, and is a practical way to define who should and shouldn’t be quarantining. Otherwise, we get back to March, where everybody in a certain area has an extremely elevated chance of being a carrier and therefore must quarantine. This does not mean that either

A) If this occurred, they must become infected
or B) If this didn’t happen, you can’t get infected
But it does say that the fact that no one got it is meaningless.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #871 on: September 10, 2020, 03:40:48 PM »
But it does say that the fact that no one got it is meaningless.
I agree that the fact that nobody at a bank that mandated masks contracted COVID is far from sufficient evidence that masks work. It’s barely even anecdotal evidence.

I think the many and various uncontested and peer reviewed studies are, though.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #872 on: September 10, 2020, 03:44:59 PM »
I agree that the fact that nobody at a bank who wore masks contracted COVID is far from sufficient evidence that masks work. It’s barely even anecdotal evidence.
Yet you were standing behind that "evidence" because what @yaakov35 said wasn't 100% accurate, when the inaccuracy doesn't really make a difference to the discussion.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #873 on: September 10, 2020, 03:51:59 PM »
Yet you were standing behind that "evidence" because what @yaakov35 said wasn't 100% accurate, when the inaccuracy doesn't really make a difference to the discussion.
I didn’t stand behind anything, I didn’t participate in that discussion.

The inaccuracy @yaakov35 posted is part of a long trend of misinformation which causes confusion and obfuscates. This also contributes to people neglecting to absorb and adhere to information that is factual because they are led to believe that nothing is true or established, when that is false.

The post @Baruch made contained all the information upon which he based his claim, and anyone with eyes and a brain could see that that’s hardly sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion, and in any case, any conclusion that could possibly be reached was harmless and perhaps helpful.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #874 on: September 10, 2020, 03:57:42 PM »
28* new cases via OCHD.
Brings Lakewood over 3000 cases, "officially".

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #875 on: September 10, 2020, 03:59:08 PM »
Brings Lakewood over 3000 cases, "officially".
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #876 on: September 10, 2020, 04:03:36 PM »
I agree that the fact that nobody at a bank that mandated masks contracted COVID is far from sufficient evidence that masks work. It’s barely even anecdotal evidence.

I think the many and various uncontested and peer reviewed studies are, though.
100% agree. The studies are around for a long time, and ii still hasn't convinced many people. I figured anecdotal evidence that people can relate to may convince.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #877 on: September 10, 2020, 04:28:29 PM »
I didn’t stand behind anything, I didn’t participate in that discussion.

The inaccuracy @yaakov35 posted is part of a long trend of misinformation which causes confusion and obfuscates. This also contributes to people neglecting to absorb and adhere to information that is factual because they are led to believe that nothing is true or established, when that is false.

The post @Baruch made contained all the information upon which he based his claim, and anyone with eyes and a brain could see that that’s hardly sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion, and in any case, any conclusion that could possibly be reached was harmless and perhaps helpful.
What was inaccurate about my post? That his example can't even be used as proof that a bank exists? That's literally how little correlation it proved.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #878 on: September 10, 2020, 04:33:44 PM »
What was inaccurate about my post? That his example can't even be used as proof that a bank exists? That's literally how little correlation it proved.
I was nitpicking on the inaccuracy of needing 15 minutes to catch it, but the relevancy to the anecdote from the bank remains true.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #879 on: September 10, 2020, 04:42:12 PM »
I was nitpicking on the inaccuracy of needing 15 minutes to catch it, but the relevancy to the anecdote from the bank remains true.
Well ya I don't think it needs 15 minutes exactly, but if there's no significant exposure your making a very hard case that people would get infected even if people with covid were there.