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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1040 on: September 14, 2020, 10:49:28 AM »
Source?

Any community other than Crown Heights (https://covid19ch.blogspot.com/) keeping and posting statistics for their community.
Reason won't convince to many people, perhaps hard data (r'l) will help sway people if there is an uptick.

Is the Chemed tracker available for public viewing, or is it only for internal use?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1041 on: September 14, 2020, 10:52:50 AM »
There are 4 hospitalizations from Lakewood, and an additional 5 people on oxygen.
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This morning I was told by a Hatzala member that there haven't been any transports.
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« Reply #1042 on: September 14, 2020, 10:54:58 AM »
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This morning I was told by a Hatzala member that there haven't been any transports.
1) that's false. I know for sure that they at least transported someone 2 Thursdays ago.

2) there are other ways of getting to the hospital than via hatzolah transport.

3) I believe that hatzolah is part of the coverup and their members have been instructed to keep things on the down low. (Your anecdote isn't the first one I've heard that's contradicted the facts.)

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1043 on: September 14, 2020, 11:05:43 AM »
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This morning I was told by a Hatzala member that there haven't been any transports.
I believe there was one on shabbos. Don’t know if Hatzoloh did the actual transport to kimball but they were definitely involved

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1044 on: September 14, 2020, 11:15:07 AM »
1) that's false. I know for sure that they at least transported someone 2 Thursdays ago.

2) there are other ways of getting to the hospital than via hatzolah transport.

3) I believe that hatzolah is part of the coverup and their members have been instructed to keep things on the down low. (Your anecdote isn't the first one I've heard that's contradicted the facts.)
is it hard sleeping at night when you spend your days trying to uncover the deep state plot of lying to you about covid stats?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1045 on: September 14, 2020, 11:18:32 AM »
is it hard sleeping at night when you spend your days trying to uncover the deep state plot of lying to you about covid stats?
Lol it's not a deep state plot. No one is hiding that this is what they're doing. It's literally not a secret what the plan is; speak to anyone who runs a mosed in town.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1046 on: September 14, 2020, 11:21:51 AM »
Lol it's not a deep state plot. No one is hiding that this is what they're doing. It's literally not a secret what the plan is; speak to anyone who runs a mosed in town.
AFAIK Hatzalah, Bikur Cholim , etc. are trying to be as accurate as possible so that they have a handle on what is actually happening.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1047 on: September 14, 2020, 11:25:18 AM »
AFAIK Hatzalah, Bikur Cholim , etc. are trying to be as accurate as possible so that they have a handle on what is actually happening.
100% but they aren't making the information/data available because they don't want people panicking.

I'm not saying I don't agree with the approach...

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1048 on: September 14, 2020, 11:29:04 AM »
100% but they aren't making the information/data available because they don't want people panicking.

I'm not saying I don't agree with the approach...
Isn't "panic" good? At the end of the day, the best way to control what's going on is for a lot of people to be much more vigilant.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1049 on: September 14, 2020, 11:31:16 AM »
Isn't "panic" good? At the end of the day, the best way to control what's going on is for a lot of people to be much more vigilant.
Look how well it worked, because everyone panicked the first time around everyone is listening to the rules and wearing masks.

Panic is never good, it means people don't think which never leads to a good outcome.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1050 on: September 14, 2020, 11:34:05 AM »
Look how well it worked, because everyone panicked the first time around everyone is listening to the rules and wearing masks.

Panic is never good, it means people don't think which never leads to a good outcome.
panic is great, haven't had to shop for toilet paper in months......

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1051 on: September 14, 2020, 11:35:30 AM »
100% but they aren't making the information/data available because they don't want people panicking.

I'm not saying I don't agree with the approach...
Isn't "panic" good? At the end of the day, the best way to control what's going on is for a lot of people to be much more vigilant.
Look how well it worked, because everyone panicked the first time around everyone is listening to the rules and wearing masks.

Panic is never good, it means people don't think which never leads to a good outcome.
I don't think we need panic. Doesn't everyone already know people who are sick this time around? Shouldn't that be enough to convince people to be more careful?

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« Reply #1052 on: September 14, 2020, 11:36:42 AM »
Isn't "panic" good? At the end of the day, the best way to control what's going on is for a lot of people to be much more vigilant.
Being that it seems most people think that it's binary - lockdown or regular life, I don't think they're overestimating people's tendency to think in black and white, and not take a measured approach.

It's a conscious decision they've (leaders) made so there's definitely some logic involved. Even if I may not fully agree...

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1053 on: September 14, 2020, 11:47:42 AM »
Being that it seems most people think that it's binary - lockdown or regular life, I don't think they're overestimating people's tendency to think in black and white, and not take a measured approach.

It's a conscious decision they've (leaders) made so there's definitely some logic involved. Even if I may not fully agree...
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1054 on: September 14, 2020, 12:00:04 PM »
If masks were the norm, you wouldn't find it binary.

I ate out once indoors begging of June when Miami re-opened.

Rest has been outdoors and to go. I don't miss anything.

I don't shop for clothing but man, I'd be worried for all the families shopping in store for chagim without masks

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1055 on: September 14, 2020, 12:46:38 PM »
panic is great, haven't had to shop for toilet paper in months......
How much did you overpay for the toilet paper?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1056 on: September 14, 2020, 12:47:47 PM »
I don't think we need panic. Doesn't everyone already know people who are sick this time around? Shouldn't that be enough to convince people to be more careful?

Lol!
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1057 on: September 14, 2020, 12:56:01 PM »
If masks were the norm, you wouldn't find it binary.

I ate out once indoors begging of June when Miami re-opened.

Rest has been outdoors and to go. I don't miss anything.

I don't shop for clothing but man, I'd be worried for all the families shopping in store for chagim without masks
You do realize there is whole frum world outside ddf, living life without masks. Not getting covid, not dying, and totally unaware of all the anger, frustration and name calling here. Shopping for clothing every day and not having issues, totally unaware of the controversy there causing here, fascinating.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1058 on: September 14, 2020, 01:03:13 PM »
You do realize there is whole frum world outside ddf, living life without masks. Not getting covid, not dying, and totally unaware of all the anger, frustration and name calling here. Shopping for clothing every day and not having issues, totally unaware of the controversy there causing here, fascinating.
By the same token, most adults in the broader NY area are wearing masks every time they go out and are surviving. Somehow it's only frum people that have a problem with this particular way of life.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1059 on: September 14, 2020, 01:07:33 PM »
You do realize there is whole frum world outside ddf, living life without masks. Not getting covid, not dying, and totally unaware of all the anger, frustration and name calling here. Shopping for clothing every day and not having issues, totally unaware of the controversy there causing here, fascinating.

And what was the price of the supposed immunity?

And the non stop charity ads I see about hundreds who died from coronavirus, are you single handedly supporting the widows and orphan's.

All that some selfish people can shop without a mask.