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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1200 on: September 18, 2020, 10:51:53 AM »
If only being safe from covid was a footnote in the Mishnah berurah.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1201 on: September 18, 2020, 10:56:05 AM »
Is it true Lakewood is out of tests?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1202 on: September 18, 2020, 10:59:54 AM »
If only being safe from covid was a footnote in the Mishnah berurah.
No Chance it would be anything near what you want... good thing it isn't.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1203 on: September 18, 2020, 11:00:49 AM »
No Chance it would be anything near what you want... good thing it isn't.
Isn't it Yo"t in Uman already?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1204 on: September 18, 2020, 11:04:40 AM »
At this point itís pretty clear that those of us (myself included) who thought it unlikely there would be a second wave in Lakewood are seeing what can reasonably be called (at least to some degree) a second wave. What started with chasunas, bungalow colonies and camps has progressed to some community spread. While it is hardly likely that it will be anything like March, there are some hospitalizations, and we need to at least be cognizant of the possibility of it making its way to the more vulnerable populations who would have more adverse outcomes. There is significant risk of government interference in Lakewood going forward and thatís something that needs to be considered as well.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1205 on: September 18, 2020, 11:06:38 AM »
I agree with ShaulYaakov and Good Sam here. The risks are just too great.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1206 on: September 18, 2020, 11:07:37 AM »

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1207 on: September 18, 2020, 11:24:43 AM »
Is it true Lakewood is out of tests?
I don't think so. I know several people who tested this morning.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1208 on: September 18, 2020, 11:35:13 AM »
What's wrong with a COVID+ only minyan? I think it's very nice for people who tested positive to be able to daven with a minyan on Rosh Hashana.

100%.

This is basically the Israeli model of covid hotels. It's a wonderful idea. I think it's a pity they don't exist. It would make it a lot easier for people to not go to regular shuls if they had covid minyan options instead of staying home.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1209 on: September 18, 2020, 11:36:15 AM »
At this point itís pretty clear that those of us (myself included) who thought it unlikely there would be a second wave in Lakewood are seeing what can reasonably be called (at least to some degree) a second wave. What started with chasunas, bungalow colonies and camps has progressed to some community spread. While it is hardly likely that it will be anything like March, there are some hospitalizations, and we need to at least be cognizant of the possibility of it making its way to the more vulnerable populations who would have more adverse outcomes. There is significant risk of government interference in Lakewood going forward and thatís something that needs to be considered as well.

Thank you for your honesty. I think we can agree that all precautions must be taken over RH, even ones that may be uncomfortable, to ensure that the situation isn't exponentially worse in 10 days from now. Please wear masks and social distance as much as possible. The actions you take on RH can be as impactful as your tefilos.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1210 on: September 18, 2020, 11:37:53 AM »
Thank you for your honesty. I think we can agree that all precautions must be taken over RH, even ones that may be uncomfortable, to ensure that the situation isn't exponentially worse in 10 days from now. Please wear masks and social distance as much as possible. The actions you take on RH can be as impactful as your tefilos.
My hot take is don't go to a non socially distanced, unmasked, indoor minyan and say "u'me bamageifah".

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1211 on: September 18, 2020, 12:20:38 PM »
You realize it only takes a split second to transmit the virus? The only difference between 'quickly walking by' and being 'exposed for hours' is the likelihood of that event occurring.

Don't forget surfaces can be contaminated
The risk of infection from passing by an infected person wearing a mask on the street is so minimal that it may be less than the risk in a SD and masked shul with no known positives.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1212 on: September 18, 2020, 12:35:46 PM »
I think a COVID+ minyan is an amazing idea.
I also think there are definitely risks associated with having such minyanim.
I also think having those minyanim probably mitigates the chances of someone who is infected actually showing up to regular shul, or worse, a COVID-precautionary minyan, although maybe some of them would be nice enough to wear a mask.

Spoken from the perspective of someone whoís been asked by 2 people who are self-isolating for symptoms if I know of any COVID (precautionary) minyanim near them.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1213 on: September 18, 2020, 01:28:41 PM »
The risk of infection from passing by an infected person wearing a mask on the street is so minimal that it may be less than the risk in a SD and masked shul with no known positives.
Not a very high bar in Lakewood, which is very embarrassing.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1214 on: September 18, 2020, 01:30:07 PM »
Not a very high bar in Lakewood, which is very embarrassing.
I am talking about anywhere.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1215 on: September 18, 2020, 04:25:57 PM »
A COVID+ minyan is a good idea only if itís a backyard minyan and not outside any shuls. I guanrantee any shul that does this will have positive people entering to use the bathroom or sink ďjust for a minute!Ē Iím sure there will also be socializing with other shul members and an attraction for children wandering outside.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1216 on: September 18, 2020, 05:44:09 PM »
A COVID+ minyan is a good idea only if itís a backyard minyan and not outside any shuls. I guanrantee any shul that does this will have positive people entering to use the bathroom or sink ďjust for a minute!Ē Iím sure there will also be socializing with other shul members and an attraction for children wandering outside.
It's not even a question
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1217 on: September 18, 2020, 06:11:00 PM »
A COVID+ minyan is a good idea only if itís a backyard minyan and not outside any shuls. I guanrantee any shul that does this will have positive people entering to use the bathroom or sink ďjust for a minute!Ē Iím sure there will also be socializing with other shul members and an attraction for children wandering outside.

Arlington Shul sent out a follow up:

At the corona minyan, positive corona in the tent, those exposed outside. Donít enter shul at all. For bathroom, use Toporovitch basement 530 Arlington (across Arlington).

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1218 on: September 18, 2020, 06:18:27 PM »
Arlington Shul sent out a follow up:

At the corona minyan, positive corona in the tent, those exposed outside. Donít enter shul at all. For bathroom, use Toporovitch basement 530 Arlington (across Arlington).
It's nice of then to offer their basement.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1219 on: September 20, 2020, 08:18:15 PM »
47 new cases reported on Friday via OCHD.
69 new cases reported on Shabbos via OCHD.
Sunday's numbers haven't been released yet.