Lakewood covid cases

[AsherO]

Sharp peak and quick drop, with only minor variations attributable to specific measures taken.

The drops weren’t all equal, but any quick drops were a reaction to measures taken, nobody reached anywhere near herd immunity that would cause a sharp drop due to saturation.

[SayWhat]

I’ll bet it’s going to sharply peak within the next one, maybe two weeks, and then drop off very quickly in the couple of weeks after that, regardless of what action is taken, just as it did in Florida.

How much are you willing to bet? Have you noticed what is going on in Israel or in Europe?

For weeks a few posters have been asking, begging for people to social distance and to wear a mask when necessary to no avail.

Sure maybe your right that it will just disappear in two weeks but what if you are wrong? Maybe just maybe it is time to start considering what will happen if you are wrong and to start taking the necessary precautions.

[shaulyaakov]

At the individual level there is a difference but on the whole the wave will follow pattern we’ve seen in numerous countries and outbreaks. Sharp peak and quick drop, with only minor variations attributable to specific measures taken.

This is some goal post moving.

[yzj]

This whole thing reads like a story straight out of Tanach: Klal Yisrael starts focusing on things that Hashem is not happy with. Hashem brings plague/famine/enemy. Klal Yisrael says we got the message; from now on things are going to be different. Hashem ends the plague/famine/war. Klal Yisrael goes right back to the way things were. Hashem brings plaque/famine/war. Repeat.

[avromie7]

Got it, so just to be clear, you very clearly said you “draw the line at community spread” but now have nothing to say.

I'm not sure what you want from me. You want me to say we're there? Yes we are.

What am I personally doing about it? Trying to figure out if I'll be going to my parents for Yom Kippur and Succos because my grandmother lives in a mother daughter house with them and eats many seudos with them, although since corona started she's been eating in a different room.

Am I going to wear a mask in shul? Not unless the Rav requires it.

Anything else you want to know?

[yuneeq]

“We closed it because it was very unsafe outdoors, but now we found a safer indoor place”
 

[Euclid]

“We closed it because it was very unsafe outdoors, but now we found a safer indoor place”
 

Was obvious that it was closed for PR reasons; can't blemish that pristine BMG public face.

[Yard sale]

“We closed it because it was very unsafe outdoors, but now we found a safer indoor place”
 

Hope they get their act together before October 29

[Euclid]

Hope they get their act together before October 29

Especially considering that their stuff is literally worthless on October 29th...

[yuneeq]

Was obvious that it was closed for PR reasons; can't blemish that pristine BMG public face.

I don't expect BMG to care. But pretending to care while making things worse is simply disgusting.

[aygart]

“We closed it because it was very unsafe outdoors, but now we found a safer indoor place”
 

Is there a booth for the APP?

[S209]

I'm not sure what you want from me. You want me to say we're there? Yes we are.

What am I personally doing about it? Trying to figure out if I'll be going to my parents for Yom Kippur and Succos because my grandmother lives in a mother daughter house with them and eats many seudos with them, although since corona started she's been eating in a different room.

Am I going to wear a mask in shul? Not unless the Rav requires it.

Anything else you want to know?

That’s it

[Euclid]

That’s it

While many of us "panic spreaders" don't see eye to eye with @avromie7, he's been amongst the more intellectually honest and civilized people on this board, and I don't think we should be picking on him.

Without saying names, there's a whole host of other people here who you can pick on. Though surely it won't be as satisfying, being that their mind pretzels are quite robust.

[shaulyaakov]

At this point, it's clear that in NY and NJ, COVID is once again disproportionately affecting orthodox communities.

How much of this is "bad luck" vs. self inflicted from being somewhere between ambivalent to masking/distancing and being outright against it?

If you beleive that some of it is self inflicted, then the logical conclusion from that is that it was preventable. Which essentially reinforces the points that many here were making that not taking it seriously was a potentially tragic miscalculation.

[Euclid]

At this point, it's clear that in NY and NJ, COVID is once again disproportionately affecting orthodox communities.

How much of this is "bad luck" vs. self inflicted from being somewhere between ambivalent to masking/distancing and being outright against it?

If you beleive that some of it is self inflicted, then the logical conclusion from that is that it was preventable. Which essentially reinforces the points that many here were making that not taking it seriously was a potentially tragic miscalculation.

Na, it's the virus being anti semitic

[shaulyaakov]

Na, it's the virus being anti semitic

If only any prior information could have led to this prediction. It's truly a mystery how this is unfolding.

[aygart]

Which essentially reinforces the points that many here were making that not taking it seriously was a potentially tragic delusion.

FTFY


This has played out almost exactly like what I and other had said that it would take months to spread back to a scale similar to what it was in March. It probably took a little longer to come back until the chasunas were back in swing and then 2-3 months and boom. The entire timeline is so clear and obvious.

[cmey]

At this point, it's clear that in NY and NJ, COVID is once again disproportionately affecting orthodox communities.

How much of this is "bad luck" vs. self inflicted from being somewhere between ambivalent to masking/distancing and being outright against it?

If you beleive that some of it is self inflicted, then the logical conclusion from that is that it was preventable. Which essentially reinforces the points that many here were making that not taking it seriously was a potentially tragic miscalculation.

That’s if you assume that a vaccine is around the corner. Many would say that everyone will be exposed eventually one way or the other. Wait until late 2021 before you take a victory lap and call it preventable and a miscalculation. Look at the premature victory everyone here declared in the Sweden vs Denmark thread. (BTW Chicago took things seriously. The shuls were empty Shavuos night.  They have a bunch of cases. Far Rockaway took things seriously. They are inundated with cases. Passaic has multiple cases.)

Besides, what is taking place in Denmark and across Europe tells you that even widely adopted efforts at long term precautions are simply not sustainable. Fatigue sets in, and the resulting resurgence is bound to happen.

[Ergel]

Scary part is, if you were writing a script for the most effective way for second wave to spread it would be:
1. Reintroduction of virus
2. Small scale community spread so people don't take it seriously
3. Large super spreader event

And we did:
1. Weddings with OOT guests + campers returning from camp
2. Schools opening
3. Yomim Noarim davening

[JackM]

Is this a covid test or an antibody test?

I was referring to Covid test