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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1560 on: September 24, 2020, 11:06:16 PM »
Seems like people are confused. It is imperative for the organizers to explain whom the minyan is catered to. Both types of minyanim exist.

And both types of minyanim are conveniently called COVID minyanim.
Both should rebrand, COVID+ and COVID-free. Better yet would be just to keep the COVID-free minyanim and ban COVID+.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1561 on: September 24, 2020, 11:10:36 PM »
Seems like people are confused. It is imperative for the organizers to explain whom the minyan is catered to. Both types of minyanim exist.

Whatever the solution, they better figure it out before YK. Fasting can be napalm on a superspreader event if someone sits in the wrong minyan for a few hours.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1562 on: September 24, 2020, 11:11:14 PM »
Better yet would be just to keep the COVID-free minyanim and ban COVID+.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1563 on: September 24, 2020, 11:12:26 PM »
And both types of minyanim are conveniently called COVID minyanim.
Both should rebrand, COVID+ and COVID-free. Better yet would be just to keep the COVID-free minyanim and ban COVID+.
No reason to ban them should definitely be clearly defined.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1564 on: September 24, 2020, 11:15:14 PM »
The State is actively working on plans for a very large very intrusive response. Not going to be fun.

Source? Local to Lakewood or State wide?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1565 on: September 24, 2020, 11:19:06 PM »
Source? Local to Lakewood or State wide?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1566 on: September 24, 2020, 11:20:47 PM »
No reason to ban them should definitely be clearly defined.

In a vacuum perhaps no problem, but not in Lakewood where anything except the most blatant ban of attending minyanim will be ineffective.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1567 on: September 24, 2020, 11:28:40 PM »
A. The cdc has stated that people who are asymptomatic “it is rare for them to transmit the virus”. Children have a higher rate of being asymptomatic.
B. In Israel they actually treat children up to fifth grade more leniently than above. Schools have been closed only above fifth grade.
And how's that working out for them?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1568 on: September 24, 2020, 11:30:08 PM »
I think we should just ban COVID from all Minyanim.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1569 on: September 24, 2020, 11:39:01 PM »
And how's that working out for them?
You misunderstood what I wrote. In the past there have been occurrences where they only closed the older grades, as the science they have has shown that the younger grades do not transmit as much.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1570 on: September 24, 2020, 11:46:22 PM »
I think we should just ban COVID from all Minyanim.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1571 on: September 24, 2020, 11:52:11 PM »
The organizer of the COVID-free minyan I was planning on attending tested positive for COVID today and it's disbanded...gotta find a new one.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1572 on: September 24, 2020, 11:52:38 PM »
The organizer of the COVID-free minyan I was planning on attending tested positive for COVID today and it's disbanded...gotta find a new one.
Which one is that?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1573 on: September 24, 2020, 11:53:34 PM »
And both types of minyanim are conveniently called COVID minyanim.
Both should rebrand, COVID+ and COVID-free. Better yet would be just to keep the COVID-free minyanim and ban COVID+.
Maybe we shouldn't call a social distancing minyan a "COVID minyan"
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1574 on: September 24, 2020, 11:55:31 PM »
Maybe we shouldn't call a social distancing minyan a "COVID minyan"

I think that COVID minyan became the term back when people couldn't fathom COVID+ attending. But COVID-free should do the trick.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1575 on: September 25, 2020, 06:47:18 AM »


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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1576 on: September 25, 2020, 08:31:52 AM »
Whatever the solution, they better figure it out before YK. Fasting can be napalm on a superspreader event if someone sits in the wrong minyan for a few hours.

Is fasting proven to be a known added risk factor for infection?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1577 on: September 25, 2020, 08:44:18 AM »
Is fasting proven to be a known added risk factor for infection?

It is known to lower the immune system. Many rabbonim gave heterim not to fast to people at risk of infection over the previous 3 fasts. YK is a different story, but all efforts should be made to limit the exposure while people are fasting.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1578 on: September 25, 2020, 08:46:20 AM »
In a vacuum perhaps no problem, but not in Lakewood where anything except the most blatant ban of attending minyanim will be ineffective.
-1 The blanket bans pesach time played an oversized role in getting us where we are now. When it is truly a choice between full lockdown and hefkerus it is not a shock that people view it that way.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1579 on: September 25, 2020, 08:47:16 AM »
The organizer of the COVID-free minyan I was planning on attending tested positive for COVID today and it's disbanded...gotta find a new one.
Nobody else can take over with most of the legwork done?
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