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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1605 on: September 25, 2020, 03:22:55 PM »
Mods, please delete this. It's explicitly against the author's wishes to have this publicized in public forums.
Could have pinged me or PM. It is actually a pretty simple feature on DDF.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1606 on: September 25, 2020, 03:25:25 PM »
Could have pinged me or PM. It is actually a pretty simple feature on DDF.
There were 2 other people who already called out the post. Figured you were ignoring for some reason.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1607 on: September 25, 2020, 03:32:15 PM »
There were 2 other people who already called out the post. Figured you were ignoring for some reason.
Like not opening the thread. Which for the most part I find boring and not relevant.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1608 on: September 25, 2020, 05:49:35 PM »
89 new per OCHD. Most since the first time around.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1609 on: September 25, 2020, 06:08:08 PM »
-1 The blanket bans pesach time played an oversized role in getting us where we are now. When it is truly a choice between full lockdown and hefkerus it is not a shock that people view it that way.

Iím referring to a blanket ban of COVID positive attendees. I donít think thatís extreme or comparable to Pesach at all.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1610 on: September 25, 2020, 06:09:12 PM »
Nobody else can take over with most of the legwork done?

Me 😀

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1611 on: September 26, 2020, 08:35:22 PM »
It seems that the State has not yet decided to designate Lakewood a high risk location which would close all schools and yeshivos. They are deploying additional tests and tracers for now. They are in ongoing discussions with Lakewood askanim. With 240 additional positives today in Ocean County letís see if their patience holds much longer.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1612 on: September 26, 2020, 08:40:32 PM »
It seems that the State has not yet decided to designate Lakewood a high risk location which would close all schools and yeshivos. They are deploying additional tests and tracers for now. They are in ongoing discussions with Lakewood askanim. With 240 additional positives today in Ocean County letís see if their patience holds much longer.
How long are they willing to wait? At  current rates, numbers aren't going to begin to go down for a few weeks.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1613 on: September 26, 2020, 09:59:28 PM »
-1 The blanket bans pesach time played an oversized role in getting us where we are now. When it is truly a choice between full lockdown and hefkerus it is not a shock that people view it that way.
Well said

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1614 on: September 26, 2020, 10:06:20 PM »
-1 The blanket bans pesach time played an oversized role in getting us where we are now. When it is truly a choice between full lockdown and hefkerus it is not a shock that people view it that way.
Sorry to say youíre dead dead wrong comparing these two. Itís completely fine to have a blanket ban on people with COVID going to minyan (or leaving their house for anything else). ONLY in Lakewood/Brooklyn is that even questioned- and thereís not a doctor that would disagree. Are you insinuating that itís overly harsh to ask people with confirmed corona to stay home?!

This has nothing to do with locking everyone up completely, infected or not. You of all people should be able to discern the difference.

This should not have to be said.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1615 on: September 26, 2020, 10:06:40 PM »
 A local shul has an indoor corona section  :o

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1616 on: September 26, 2020, 10:15:34 PM »
Iím referring to a blanket ban of COVID positive attendees. I donít think thatís extreme or comparable to Pesach at all.
I misunderstood what you meant, but still disagree. The best way to ensure that people keep going to their regular minyan is to not have an alternative. This is where things stand now as much as I dislike that this is where it is.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1617 on: September 26, 2020, 10:16:39 PM »
Sorry to say youíre dead dead wrong comparing these two. Itís completely fine to have a blanket ban on people with COVID going to minyan (or leaving their house for anything else). ONLY in Lakewood/Brooklyn is that even questioned- and thereís not a doctor that would disagree. Are you insinuating that itís overly harsh to ask people with confirmed corona to stay home?!

This has nothing to do with locking everyone up completely, infected or not. You of all people should be able to discern the difference.

This should not have to be said.

The best way to keep them out of shuls is to have a place for them to go.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1618 on: September 26, 2020, 10:38:01 PM »
The best way to keep them out of shuls is to have a place for them to go.
Maybe, but itís inexcusable that thatís the case. Itís dead wrong to even consider attending Shul while sick with a highly infectious potentially deadly virus. The fact that there was a harsh lockdown changes nothing about that equation.

And yes I agree with you
I think a COVID+ minyan is an amazing idea.
I also think there are definitely risks associated with having such minyanim.
I also think having those minyanim probably mitigates the chances of someone who is infected actually showing up to regular shul, or worse, a COVID-precautionary minyan, although maybe some of them would be nice enough to wear a mask.

Spoken from the perspective of someone whoís been asked by 2 people who are self-isolating for symptoms if I know of any COVID (precautionary) minyanim near them.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #1619 on: September 26, 2020, 10:47:43 PM »
The best way to keep them out of shuls is to have a place for them to go.
And what about daas Torah unequivocally saying it's assur to go to shul with COVID?