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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2020 on: October 02, 2020, 08:15:44 AM »
I find it interesting that you consider yourself incapable of even offering an opinion as to when someone is considered a rodef, but are very quick to definitively decide how reinfections work. Especially considering you likely know a lot more about hilchos rodef than about infectious diseases

Has there been a single reinfection of someone who currently had IgG antibodies at time of infection?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2021 on: October 02, 2020, 08:21:24 AM »
Has there been a single reinfection of someone who currently had IgG antibodies at time of infection?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2022 on: October 02, 2020, 10:09:51 AM »
Has there been a single reinfection of someone who currently had IgG antibodies at time of infection?

My issue is, most of the stuff is based on what we know and a lot of what we don't know and so much of what we know is that we don't know.

It's like me, I know I don't know tur, shach, taz, bach, aruch hashulchan etc so I know I can't give a halachik analysis.

Do we know if people can be reinfected ? Not really, it's true that very few did.

Did that take into account decreased antibodies? Dunno
What about the fact that the people who were not reinfected during the time there was no new cases? Maybe it's because they simply weren't exposed to the virus.

My issue is, people just making things up.. is there a possibility that somebody can get reinfected and because nobody's taking any precautions because they had it already.  They could then spread it ?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2023 on: October 02, 2020, 10:19:29 AM »

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2024 on: October 02, 2020, 10:27:30 AM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/10/exclusive-video-dr-rich-roberts-shares-details-of-his-meeting-with-president-trump.html

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/10/trump-held-nj-fundraiser-hours-before-testing-positive-for-covid-19.html

Trump was apparently symptomatic (lethargic)  at Bedminster yesterday when he met him. I guess it’s time for him to quarantine.

He has been quarantined since before Purim. He kept an entire glass section in his shul for yomim noraim and made sure it was hermetically sealed from what I've heard.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2025 on: October 02, 2020, 10:38:07 AM »
He has been quarantined since before Purim. He kept an entire glass section in his shul for yomim noraim and made sure it was hermetically sealed from what I've heard.
I guess it's a question of priorities. Meeting Trump warrants breaking quarantine. להבדיל אלף הבדלות R' Yeruchem Shlit"a is also under strict quarantine but he has come out to give Shiurim and Shmuezen

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2026 on: October 02, 2020, 11:26:13 AM »
He has been quarantined since before Purim. He kept an entire glass section in his shul for yomim noraim and made sure it was hermetically sealed from what I've heard.
Wow. Maybe there’s a message here to live life normally with reasonable precautions. I know many people who holed up in their apartments with toddlers for months and months with no socializing for them or their kids, only to finally throw in the towel and emerge just when the virus is on the upswing, emotionally exhausted, toddlers suffering socially, with so little to show for it.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2027 on: October 02, 2020, 11:29:04 AM »
He has been quarantined since before Purim. He kept an entire glass section in his shul for yomim noraim and made sure it was hermetically sealed from what I've heard.
Hermitically sealed include the top? Usually those bubbles/capsules are in denial about aerosolized transmission
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2028 on: October 02, 2020, 11:48:24 AM »
Hermitically sealed include the top? Usually those bubbles/capsules are in denial about aerosolized transmission
Dunno. He used tape and all sorts of stuff. He is knowledgeable enough to have figured it out.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2029 on: October 02, 2020, 11:52:05 AM »
Wow. Maybe there’s a message here to live life normally with reasonable precautions. I know many people who holed up in their apartments with toddlers for months and months with no socializing for them or their kids, only to finally throw in the towel and emerge just when the virus is on the upswing, emotionally exhausted, toddlers suffering socially, with so little to show for it.
I know many such families, most of them have caught in the last 4 weeks.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2030 on: October 02, 2020, 01:08:52 PM »
No one listens anyways...  They have hydroxy and They all know that covid19 is a made up leftist scam.

It's all made up says the chareidi world!!

I don't believe anyone on this thread subscribes to any of those things. Certainly not @avromie7

Those tragedies are terrible, but they are not all the result of dismissing the seriousness of the threat.

There are those who got it even though they were "very careful" (who hasn't heard of such people?),

There are those who got it because they gave up after seeing seemingly the same results from those who were apparently careful as those who were not http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/288163

There are those who are truly ignorant of the seriousness, be it due to lack of exposure to media, etc. or being fed too much incorrect information
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2031 on: October 04, 2020, 08:55:25 PM »
From the publisher of the biggest (arguably) Lakewood publication. Posting for when the next MMR outbreak occurs in town.


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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2032 on: October 04, 2020, 11:40:02 PM »
Westgate required anyone without confirmed antibodies to wear a mask in Shul on Yom Tov. I believe Kollel Bnei Torah as well.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2033 on: October 04, 2020, 11:43:27 PM »
Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has tested positive for Covid-19 days after helping President Trump prepare for the first presidential debate, Additionally the former governor has checked himself into a hospital.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2034 on: October 04, 2020, 11:47:58 PM »
Westgate required anyone without confirmed antibodies to wear a mask in Shul on Yom Tov. I believe Kollel Bnei Torah as well.
How do any of these shuls enforce this?

Most people who weren't wearing masks of their own volition until now won't begin now because of this.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2035 on: October 04, 2020, 11:51:01 PM »
How do any of these shuls enforce this?

Most people who weren't wearing masks of their own volition until now won't begin now because of this.
I wasn't there due to exposure (i was out the window elsewhere) but my son in law with antibodies said that more than half were wearing masks. There is a presumption that most people will follow a clear directive from the Rov in his shul.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2036 on: October 04, 2020, 11:51:56 PM »
I wasn't there due to exposure (i was out the window elsewhere) but my son in law with antibodies said that more than half were wearing masks. There is a presumption that most people will follow a clear directive from the Rov in his shul.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2037 on: October 04, 2020, 11:54:07 PM »
Faith in humanity restored.
I think those who panic upon mention of masks are a minority.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2038 on: October 05, 2020, 12:14:14 AM »
I wasn't there due to exposure (i was out the window elsewhere) but my son in law with antibodies said that more than half were wearing masks. There is a presumption that most people will follow a clear directive from the Rov in his shul.

Wish my shul had masks. I ended up sitting outside by the back door of shul, was a bit awkward because apparently the space was meant for COVID+
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2039 on: October 05, 2020, 12:16:05 AM »
Wish my shul had masks. I ended up sitting outside by the back door of shul, was a bit awkward because apparently the space was meant for COVID+
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