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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2060 on: October 05, 2020, 10:50:41 AM »
They had temporary immunity pesach time due to antibodies from a different infection during the winter. This temporary immunity wore off.
I thought of and posted this theory months ago but have yet to find someone else mentioning it. Doesn’t it sound reasonable? Where did you see this?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2061 on: October 05, 2020, 10:53:35 AM »
I agree with you. But how does this explain the explosion now of ppl who were most def exposed Pesach time? Example my wife is got it now and not Pesach when I had it
Precisely because of this reason people who were “exposed” should not be getting together with other people who were. Not every exposure is created equal. There are several explanations that are possible for each scenario, including that some people are more contagious than others, some are better at fighting the infection, some/most are only contagious for a short period of time, some didn’t actually get fully exposed despite thinking they did (being in the same house won’t necessarily get one infected, though it can)
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2062 on: October 05, 2020, 10:56:39 AM »
They had temporary immunity pesach time due to antibodies from a different infection during the winter. This temporary immunity wore off.

 It's as plausible explanation as any. One thing is for sure... The data seems to be undeniable. There are almost no reinfections, and in places with outbreaks, nearly everyone who didn't catch it last time is catching it this time.

There must be a lot of reinfections. Have 3 relatives already reinfected and hearing about a lot more.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2063 on: October 05, 2020, 10:58:02 AM »
There must be a lot of reinfections. Have 3 relatives already reinfected and hearing about a lot more.
Another friend of mine who had antibodies and a previous positive PCR test (a rarity) has symptoms again, he’s going to get tested today. He was originally infected very early on.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2064 on: October 05, 2020, 12:23:06 PM »
It's like some people were born yesterday around here.  ;)
Why am I so off? Back in March it was very easy for one person to spread it - as no one had antibodies. Today it takes 10 people to do the same damage as many people have antibodies.. obviously I don't mean a handful of people had it back in March But I believe a lot less people were needed to do the spreading.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2066 on: October 05, 2020, 11:47:27 PM »
Hearing from a *very* reliable source in the Lakewood medical community that COVID hospitalizations and deaths are deliberately being kept under wraps but there are quite a few that are not public knowledge
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2067 on: October 05, 2020, 11:48:38 PM »
Hearing from a *very* reliable source in the Lakewood medical community that COVID hospitalizations and deaths are deliberately being kept under wraps but there are quite a few that are not public knowledge
Not deliberate by whom?

There was a hospitalization on my block first day Yom Tov. His kids say he is doing better but he is still not home.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2068 on: October 05, 2020, 11:49:58 PM »
Hearing from a *very* reliable source in the Lakewood medical community that COVID hospitalizations and deaths are deliberately being kept under wraps but there are quite a few that are not public knowledge

I doubt deaths can be kept under wrap. Whitewashed perhaps but everyone knows it’s COVID.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2069 on: October 05, 2020, 11:50:41 PM »
Not deliberate by whom?

There was a hospitalization on my block first day Yom Tov. His kids say he is doing better but he is still not home.
I meant deliberately, see my edited post. The establishment is trying to keep the information hidden to the best of their ability.

This source is about as high as you can get in both the Lakewood establishment and medical community.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2070 on: October 05, 2020, 11:52:36 PM »
I meant deliberately, see my edited post. The establishment is trying to keep the information hidden to the best of their ability.

This source is about as high as you can get in both the Lakewood establishment and medical community.
Hidden from whom? The government knows them.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2071 on: October 05, 2020, 11:53:19 PM »
I doubt deaths can be kept under wrap. Whitewashed perhaps but everyone knows it’s COVID.
Apparently there have been at least a couple of deaths recently without much fanfare, they were not publicized as COVID. You will see them quietly listed in the OCHD numbers over the next couple of weeks.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2072 on: October 05, 2020, 11:53:46 PM »
Hidden from whom? The government knows them.
I’m not entirely sure. The public eye. Perhaps the government has an interest in that as well.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2073 on: October 05, 2020, 11:54:38 PM »
I meant deliberately, see my edited post. The establishment is trying to keep the information hidden to the best of their ability.

This source is about as high as you can get in both the Lakewood establishment and medical community.

The only people they are hiding this info from is the Lakewood community. The government has all the data on COVID cases, hospitalizations, deaths broken down by age, race, demographic, etc. What are they trying to gain? A frummer Yid might go off the derech and wear a mask?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2074 on: October 05, 2020, 11:54:59 PM »
I’m not entirely sure. The public eye. Perhaps the government has an interest in that as well.
I have the same question on them as i had on Murphy. What is the end game? What is the long term plan?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2075 on: October 05, 2020, 11:55:48 PM »
The only people they are hiding this info from is the Lakewood community. The government has all the data on COVID cases, hospitalizations, deaths broken down by age, race, demographic, etc. What are they trying to gain? A frummer Yid might go off the derech and wear a mask?
A.k.a.hiding it from me and you.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2076 on: October 05, 2020, 11:56:40 PM »
The only people they are hiding this info from is the Lakewood community. The government has all the data on COVID cases, hospitalizations, deaths broken down by age, race, demographic, etc. What are they trying to gain? A frummer Yid might go off the derech and wear a mask?
I have the same question on them as i had on Murphy. What is the end game? What is the long term plan?
Believe me, I have no idea. But yes, they seem to be hiding it from the Lakewood (and broader?) communities.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2077 on: October 06, 2020, 12:05:18 AM »
Hearing from a *very* reliable source in the Lakewood medical community that COVID hospitalizations and deaths are deliberately being kept under wraps but there are quite a few that are not public knowledge

The most reliable source is Hatzolah. Check numbers now vs. back in March. Not to compare. All the other numbers are BS.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2078 on: October 06, 2020, 12:05:53 AM »
There was a hospitalization on my block first day Yom Tov. His kids say he is doing better but he is still not home.
doing better is vague you first have to know how bad it affected him and how he is feeling now before assuming it's a lie

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #2079 on: October 06, 2020, 12:07:18 AM »
The most reliable source is Hatzolah. Check numbers now vs. back in March. Not to compare. All the other numbers are BS.
The amount of calls are actually quite comparable.