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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3180 on: January 27, 2021, 10:27:21 PM »
I’m guessing he said in the past few weeks rather than each week, and he was including the Tri State area otherwise sounds way too high.

Even tri-state area that sounds too high. I’m far from one who believes COVID is over or that any facts should be downplayed, but based on the numbers being reported out of Lakewood, it doesn’t seem to add up.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3181 on: January 27, 2021, 10:30:59 PM »
I don’t know. It definitely seems very high for the under 40 crowd but then again I was told (and was “debunked” for repeating) there are dozens in serious condition in the hospital from Lakewood right now. I am personally aware of more than one of them (under 40).

I have no problem believing that there are dozens of Frum people from Lakewood hospitalized in serious condition, but this is different in that:
- All women
- All pregnant
- All this week
- All under 40
- All critical (your “dozens of serious” probably includes critical as well, but that’s a fraction of the “dozens”).

Both your report and the doctor’s are frightening R”L, but the doctors’ sounds inaccurate or he said something different.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3182 on: January 27, 2021, 10:31:05 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2021/01/tragic-petirah-of-mrs-basha-rand-ah-young-mother-of-3.html

Why do they cover this up as a short illness? What are they trying to achieve by covering up?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3183 on: January 27, 2021, 10:31:42 PM »
I have no problem believing that there are dozens of Frum people from Lakewood hospitalized in serious condition, but this is different in that:
- All women
- All pregnant
- All this week
- All under 40
- All critical (your “dozens of serious” probably includes critical as well, but that’s a fraction of the “dozens”).

Both your report and the doctor’s are frightening R”L, but the doctors’ sounds inaccurate or he said something different.
he said pregnant?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3184 on: January 27, 2021, 10:33:52 PM »
he said pregnant?

My mistake, I was confusing the other reports of pregnant women in critical condition r”l, with this.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3185 on: January 27, 2021, 10:34:29 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2021/01/tragic-petirah-of-mrs-basha-rand-ah-young-mother-of-3.html

Why do they cover this up as a short illness? What are they trying to achieve by covering up?
You're asking questions about TLS?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3186 on: January 27, 2021, 10:35:24 PM »
You're asking questions about TLS?
What's the point? What are they trying to achieve?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3187 on: January 27, 2021, 10:36:49 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2021/01/tragic-petirah-of-mrs-basha-rand-ah-young-mother-of-3.html

Why do they cover this up as a short illness? What are they trying to achieve by covering up?
I don’t believe they’ve reported a single death as “COVID” since April
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3188 on: January 27, 2021, 10:37:51 PM »
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3189 on: January 27, 2021, 10:39:32 PM »
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.
Careful, you might be “debunked” because someone will say they don’t believe you.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3190 on: January 27, 2021, 10:41:27 PM »
What's the point? What are they trying to achieve?
If you've followed the rest of their covid "reporting" this wouldn't be a question to you.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3191 on: January 27, 2021, 10:43:27 PM »
If you've followed the rest of their covid "reporting" this wouldn't be a question to you.
I understand all this. I don't understand why?

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Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3192 on: January 27, 2021, 10:45:47 PM »
I understand all this. I don't understand why?
They're science skeptics. (Been apparent long before covid too.)

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3193 on: January 27, 2021, 10:47:53 PM »
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.

What percentage of hospitalized COVID cases end up in Philly? What percentage of currently hospitalized patients were hospitalized in the past week or so?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3194 on: January 27, 2021, 11:14:59 PM »
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.
If this is true then the regular channels of keeping track are not being utilized. Don't know if it's the healthcare providers or the patients themselves who are keeping "out of the system".

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3195 on: January 27, 2021, 11:26:51 PM »
So there are more than 30 frum women in their 20’s and 30’s who are critical in the Tri State area in the last few weeks?
Hospitalized in the last few weeks doesn't mean they are still hospitalized currently.
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.
Is it safe to assume an equal or great number in NYC hospitals? I have no idea how this works.

If this is true then the regular channels of keeping track are not being utilized. Don't know if it's the healthcare providers or the patients themselves who are keeping "out of the system".
Which regular channels are you referring to?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3196 on: January 27, 2021, 11:43:04 PM »
Careful, you might be “debunked” because someone will say they don’t believe you.

5-6 is not dozens.

Dozen = 12. Dozens = at minimum 24 (but maybe 36, 48, or 60, or more as it didn't specify how many dozens).

Other posters stated that reputable sources had the number at under 20 which doesn't equal the minimum for dozens. Nothing to do with not believing.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3197 on: January 28, 2021, 04:03:14 AM »
I was told by someone with first hand information that there are 5-6 young women from Lakewood currently hospitalized in Philadelphia.
+1

Someone who works at Chai Lifeline just told me he knows of several women currently in Philadelphia.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3198 on: January 28, 2021, 04:07:31 AM »
5-6 is not dozens.

Dozen = 12. Dozens = at minimum 24 (but maybe 36, 48, or 60, or more as it didn't specify how many dozens).

Other posters stated that reputable sources had the number at under 20 which doesn't equal the minimum for dozens. Nothing to do with not believing.
You clearly haven’t been following. This poster said there are 5-6 *young women* in *Philadelphia*. That is not the sum total of hospitalized patients from Lakewood. Another poster has now said there have been 20-30 young women hospitalized per week.

2 posters disagreed with my numbers in a contradictory fashion. One has been shown to be unreliable. The other single poster who said it’s under 20 said it’s AFA they know, and has now said that they seem to be missing some information.

Tell me again how I was debunked?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3199 on: January 28, 2021, 09:23:46 AM »
Another poster has now said there have been 20-30 young women hospitalized per week.

And that has been questioned as well. As well as, which your response to was:

I don’t know. It definitely seems very high for the under 40 crowd

You were missing my point either way. If a poster says 5-6 women in Philly that he knows about first hand, there's no reason to say he won't be believed. Its just not the same as making a statement saying dozens are currently hospitalized in serious condition.

I personally never questioned any of these assertions because I have no idea if they may be true or not and I would rather give the benefit of the doubt.

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