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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3200 on: January 28, 2021, 09:27:24 AM »
There simply aren’t  20 to 30 critical young women per week in Lakewood. There’s no point in debating this.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3201 on: January 28, 2021, 10:17:10 AM »
There simply aren’t  20 to 30 critical young women per week in Lakewood. There’s no point in debating this.

hospitalization does not have to mean critical condition
I have a friend in his 30's that was hospitalized for covid last week   
he needed oxygen and that was the best way to get it
At least according to those that know him well he was never in danger   but it was a process to go through to get better

to say that there are 20-30 young women in critical condition when i have not heard of any or seen tehillim being said for a single one does seem highly unusual

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3202 on: January 28, 2021, 10:28:28 AM »
hospitalization does not have to mean critical condition
I have a friend in his 30's that was hospitalized for covid last week   
he needed oxygen and that was the best way to get it
At least according to those that know him well he was never in danger   but it was a process to go through to get better

to say that there are 20-30 young women in critical condition when i have not heard of any or seen tehillim being said for a single one does seem highly unusual
This. I was recently told that a relatives' grandmother was "hospitalized due to COVID". About a week later when I followed up I was told she just went in for plasma, although they may have kept her in overnight.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3203 on: January 28, 2021, 10:30:04 AM »
MAYBE (and highly unlikely if Lakewood alone) hospitalized short term for treatment, definitely not that many in critical condition.
Maybe they're including anyone who got plasma.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3204 on: January 28, 2021, 10:36:49 AM »
This. I was recently told that a relatives' grandmother was "hospitalized due to COVID". About a week later when I followed up I was told she just went in for plasma, although they may have kept her in overnight.
I went in for antibodies and was "kept overnight". I checked in at 11:00 pm and got out at 1:15 a.m.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3205 on: January 28, 2021, 10:51:11 AM »
Listen, this is what she told me the Dr said. Could it be serious and not critical? I guess. Some of the options people mentioned could be attributed to broken telephone, but no it wasn't people going in for plasma. Get real.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3206 on: January 28, 2021, 10:57:02 AM »
Listen, this is what she told me the Dr said. Could it be serious and not critical? I guess. Some of the options people mentioned could be attributed to broken telephone, but no it wasn't people going in for plasma. Get real.

Serious is bad enough too (and obviously doesn't mean ppl getting plasma). I honestly hope its not true.

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Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3207 on: January 28, 2021, 10:57:45 AM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2021/01/lakewood-bikur-cholim-offering-to-make-shabbos-for-households-with-covid-stricken-parent.html
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Unfortunately, many young mothers have recently been diagnosed and some hospitlized with covid.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3208 on: January 28, 2021, 11:44:22 AM »
Perhaps Bikur Cholim has accurate numbers.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3209 on: January 28, 2021, 01:20:49 PM »
Perhaps Bikur Cholim has accurate numbers.
They definitely know a certain amount (which could be used a baseline) but it’s unlikely they know of every case
I personally never questioned any of these assertions because I have no idea if they may be true or not and I would rather give the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3210 on: January 28, 2021, 01:22:49 PM »
This. I was recently told that a relatives' grandmother was "hospitalized due to COVID". About a week later when I followed up I was told she just went in for plasma, although they may have kept her in overnight.
Granted some “hospitalizations” may be precautionary/less serious but if the hospital chose to admit her it’s because her numbers were concerning. Otherwise it’s a quick outpatient procedure.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3211 on: January 28, 2021, 01:24:21 PM »
Granted some “hospitalizations” may be precautionary/less serious but if the hospital chose to admit her it’s because her numbers were concerning. Otherwise it’s a quick outpatient procedure.
Nah. It's healthy people only being called 'sick' because we're testing healthy people without symptoms. We should just test less and the whole fiction will go away.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3212 on: January 28, 2021, 01:25:57 PM »
Well, you did write

Since when does writing that = by ME?

I said I personally didn't question any of the assertions and you won't find anywhere that I did. It was others, but definitely not me.

It's your word against multiple other posters

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3213 on: January 28, 2021, 01:29:07 PM »
Since when does writing that = by ME?

I said I personally didn't question any of the assertions and you won't find anywhere that I did. It was others, but definitely not me.
Even for me this is getting too petty so I’ll stop. Tip- perhaps you should go back and reread what you wrote about my assertions unthread.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3214 on: January 28, 2021, 01:32:25 PM »
Since when does writing that = by ME?

I said I personally didn't question any of the assertions and you won't find anywhere that I did. It was others, but definitely not me.

I questioned the assertion by @aygart ‘s wife’s doctor, and continue to question it because it sounds high. Other data was cited that supports it, but not to the extent I believe it’s 100% accurate. I certainly don’t think it’s debunked, I just feel it hasn’t been corroborated. COVID is dangerous and potentially deadly ch”v, and I don’t think my questioning a statement should lead anyone to be any more lenient, every possible precaution should be taken.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3215 on: January 28, 2021, 01:37:20 PM »
Even for me this is getting too petty so I’ll stop. Tip- perhaps you should go back and reread what you wrote about my assertions unthread.

I agree and I did (before posting my previous post).

In every post I was talking specifically about other posters when referring to the number of ppl hospitalized which is what is being discussed here. I'd like you to point to a post where I personally said anything about it. There isn't any because I don't know anything about it to question it.

The only place I was questioning an assertion of yours directly was regarding lumping majority of posters here together and labeling them as COVID deniers and I stand by that.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3216 on: January 28, 2021, 01:38:09 PM »
I questioned the assertion by @aygart ‘s wife’s doctor, and continue to question it because it sounds high. Other data was cited that supports it, but not to the extent I believe it’s 100% accurate. I certainly don’t think it’s debunked, I just feel it hasn’t been corroborated. COVID is dangerous and potentially deadly ch”v, and I don’t think my questioning a statement should lead anyone to be any more lenient, every possible precaution should be taken.

No it wasn't you and it wasn't about that statement.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3217 on: January 28, 2021, 01:38:40 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2021/01/lakewood-bikur-cholim-offering-to-make-shabbos-for-households-with-covid-stricken-parent.html
Just got a robocall from them saying in a nutshell that because so many parents with young children are currently sick (or hospitalized? Not sure if they said that outright) with COVID-19 they’re offering to prepare Shabbos for them.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3218 on: January 28, 2021, 01:39:33 PM »
I'd like you to point to a post where I personally said anything about it.
I said I’m stopping, so you’re out of luck. Guess you win this round :)
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3219 on: January 28, 2021, 01:42:10 PM »
I said I’m stopping, so you’re out of luck. Guess you win this round :)

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