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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3580 on: February 12, 2021, 10:25:35 AM »
I'm sure it also helps that they knew I wasn't asking for heterim....

So you asked what was safest to do and told that you could isolate for 14 days. No chiddush there.

CDC guidelines are what's optimal societally/on-scale and doesn't take into account every statistical outlier.
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« Reply #3581 on: February 12, 2021, 10:27:28 AM »
So you asked what was safest to do and told that you could isolate for 14 days. No chiddush there.

CDC guidelines are what's optimal societally/on-scale and doesn't take into account every statistical outlier.

I didn't ask for hiddurim, either. I asked for the proper medical guidelines, and was told not to listen to the CDC.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3582 on: February 12, 2021, 10:31:16 AM »
I didn't ask for hiddurim, either. I asked for the proper medical guidelines, and was told not to listen to the CDC.

Are we talking 15 minute masked exposure or co-inhabitant exposure?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3583 on: February 12, 2021, 10:33:59 AM »
Yes and no. When people say:Then I reserve the right to be the same way.
When someone's rhetoric has been to play it fast and loose with covid, they don't get the benefit of doubt that they're acting properly.

I didn't say to give the benefit of the doubt or to be ok with what went down. Nuance goes both ways, though. There's no need to exaggerate when he left quarantine or to make it worse than it was.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3584 on: February 12, 2021, 10:36:20 AM »
Are we talking 15 masked exposure or co-inhabitant exposure?

20 minute unmasked indoor exposure to multiple positive people. Most of them were children or adolescents, and the exposed person was an adolescent. TG all ended well on our end.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3585 on: February 12, 2021, 10:36:28 AM »
High risk person with COVID for 7 days, no fever, breathing is fine, is told by doctor that there is no reason at this point to get the antibody treatment. Is this the widely acceptable position?
Is there anything to lose or is it just a waste of time?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3586 on: February 12, 2021, 10:38:03 AM »
I didn't say to give the benefit of the doubt or to be ok with what went down. Nuance goes both ways, though. There's no need to exaggerate when he left quarantine or to make it worse than it was.
100%. I was just bringing attention to it because of his previous comments; not because I was genuinely concerned.

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« Reply #3587 on: February 12, 2021, 10:40:09 AM »
100%. I was just bringing attention to it because of his previous comments; not because I was genuinely concerned.

I get it. I'm just tired of being pissed at people who take shortcuts or don't take it seriously at all. That's my Covid fatigue.
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« Reply #3588 on: February 12, 2021, 10:42:08 AM »
High risk person with COVID for 7 days, no fever, breathing is fine, is told by doctor that there is no reason at this point to get the antibody treatment. Is this the widely acceptable position?

7 days based on exposure, date of test, or date of results?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3589 on: February 12, 2021, 10:42:17 AM »
High risk person with COVID for 7 days, no fever, breathing is fine, is told by doctor that there is no reason at this point to get the antibody treatment. Is this the widely acceptable position?
Yes, at this point the initial infection has likely been fought off (or not)and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it could actually do damage (by strengthening the immune response in the second stage which seems to cause the most damage)
Actually currently the CDC suggests 7 days with a negative PCR may be enough. Of course note that masking though day 14 is imperative...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-options-to-reduce-quarantine.html
Again, this is for exposure not a positive case. Regardless, the CDC acknowledges that it’s insufficient to rule out COVID and they only recommend this because they believe that it should increase compliance and therefore be beneficial at scale.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3590 on: February 12, 2021, 10:43:13 AM »
I get it. I'm just tired of being pissed at people who take shortcuts or don't take it seriously at all. That's my Covid fatigue.
Ive migrated from being pissed to just being disappointed. I now sigh and move on, instead of stewing.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3591 on: February 12, 2021, 11:07:27 AM »
7 days based on exposure, date of test, or date of results?
7 days from start of symptoms.. only tested yesterday so 1 day from test results.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3592 on: February 12, 2021, 11:09:15 AM »
Ok seriously guys, I have been having non stop hiccups the last few days.  Can we switch the subject here?

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3593 on: February 12, 2021, 11:09:47 AM »
7 days from start of symptoms.. only tested yesterday so 1 day from test results.
For the sake of the future and for others, this was their mistake. There is not a single valid reason I can think of to delay testing, especially in someone high risk.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3594 on: February 12, 2021, 11:11:03 AM »
100%. I was just bringing attention to it because of his previous comments; not because I was genuinely concerned.
And just to argue with this,

You haven't read all my comments regarding covid. 

I actually do take it pretty seriously.   It's not a coincidence that I avoided it until now.   Because I disagree with random child testing doesn't mean I disregard covid.   
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3595 on: February 12, 2021, 11:15:15 AM »


I actually do take it pretty seriously.   It's not a coincidence that I avoided it until now.   Because I disagree with random child testing doesn't mean I disregard covid.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3596 on: February 12, 2021, 11:17:05 AM »
7 days from start of symptoms.. only tested yesterday so 1 day from test results.

I'm not sure there's a good reason to push for antibodies treatment if they're on Day 7 and seem to be doing ok.

For the sake of the future and for others, this was their mistake. There is not a single valid reason I can think of to delay testing, especially in someone high risk.


+1. Especially with the antibodies treatments. The sooner you know, the better off you are.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3597 on: February 12, 2021, 11:19:09 AM »
Re 7 day with test/10 day vs 14 day quarantine for exposure, the info on the CDC's site points to increased risk of just 0.3% with the shorter requirements
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3598 on: February 12, 2021, 11:50:20 AM »
For the sake of the future and for others, this was their mistake. There is not a single valid reason I can think of to delay testing, especially in someone high risk.
At some point you stop running to get tested every time you feel a little under the weather. Earlier on I got tested when I wasn't feeing well, once was strep and another was just a virus. After that I stopped running to get tested every time I felt a little under the weather, of course this week the same thing happened and we decided to get tested just in case because we had a sheva brachos and wanted to avoid infecting anyone on the off chance that it was COVID... and it was. Interestingly, while my wife got a positive rapid (and PCR), my rapid came back negative but my PCR came back positive.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3599 on: February 12, 2021, 12:02:16 PM »
I think this sentiment is why US positive tests peaked on Dec 24. People were getting tested before holiday meetings.
I think that shouldn't have such a major effect on the overall number of positive tests, within 2 days of when I got tested I would have seen my symptoms get worse and probably would have tested then. Maybe others wouldn't so that did have an effect on the actual number of positive tests.
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