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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3740 on: February 14, 2021, 07:18:56 PM »
How long does it take?
about 10 minutes. Also with Chai care although they tell you 1-3 business days, I got the results the following evening after I took the tests.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3741 on: February 14, 2021, 08:17:55 PM »
about 10 minutes.
They have 10 minute 99.5%+ accurate PCR tests? When did that happen?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3742 on: February 14, 2021, 08:19:13 PM »
They have 10 minute 99.5%+ accurate PCR tests? When did that happen?
is it a molecular test that's not pcr?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3743 on: February 14, 2021, 08:22:13 PM »
They have 10 minute 99.5%+ accurate PCR tests? When did that happen?
I just want to interject with my anecdotal input. My father had fever last week, took two covid tests at the beginning of the week, one rapid and one non-rapid but same day. Both negative. Fever was persistent, so he retested Friday. Covid positive.

Obviously he could be in the statistical minority, or his fever was unrelated (highly unlikely), but the one story I know of someone who took the test gave a false negative IMO. (Yes, he seems to be fine, thanks for asking.)

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3744 on: February 14, 2021, 08:24:26 PM »
I just want to interject with my anecdotal input. My father had fever last week, took two covid tests at the beginning of the week, one rapid and one non-rapid but same day. Both negative. Fever was persistent, so he retested Friday. Covid positive.

Obviously he could be in the statistical minority, or his fever was unrelated (highly unlikely), but the one story I know of someone who took the test gave a false negative IMO. (Yes, he seems to be fine, thanks for asking.)
What do you mean by “non-rapid”? PCR? Even PCR tests return a fair amount of false negatives, but lower than antigen tests.

is it a molecular test that's not pcr?
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3745 on: February 14, 2021, 08:28:22 PM »
I was also wondering
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3746 on: February 14, 2021, 08:33:06 PM »
What do you mean by “non-rapid”? PCR? Even PCR tests return a fair amount of false negatives, but lower than antigen tests.
I'm honestly not sure. The way it was described to me, it was a "laboratory test", but the practitioner (who did a home visit) had "access" to a lab and was therefore able to get same-day results.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3747 on: February 14, 2021, 08:39:07 PM »
I'm honestly not sure. The way it was described to me, it was a "laboratory test", but the practitioner (who did a home visit) had "access" to a lab and was therefore able to get same-day results.
Sounds like a PCR test. As has been stated repeatedly on this thread, false negatives are common (far more for antigen “rapid” test than “overnight” PCR tests) but false positives are very rare to borderline impossible (for PCR tests. For antigen tests they are infrequent but not exactly rare).

I think (hope?) that at this point most people are aware that false positives isn’t really a thing.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3748 on: February 14, 2021, 09:55:06 PM »


but false positives are very rare to borderline impossible (for PCR tests.

After having COVID-19, false positives are very much a thing for months afterwards.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3749 on: February 14, 2021, 09:56:45 PM »

After having COVID-19, false positives are very much a thing for months afterwards.
They aren’t false, Covid doesn’t actually leave for many months, just less symptoms.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3750 on: February 14, 2021, 09:58:20 PM »
They aren’t false, Covid doesn’t actually leave for many months, just less symptoms.
So my siblings and I were positive for 3 months?!
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3751 on: February 14, 2021, 10:00:44 PM »
So my siblings and I were positive for 2+ months?!
Yup nCov2 particles were in your body, they were just neutralized enough not to be contagious or cause major symptoms. Sometimes they reactivate and people get ill again.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3752 on: February 14, 2021, 10:02:54 PM »
Yup nCov2 particles were in your body, they were just neutralized enough not to be contagious or cause major symptoms. Sometimes they reactivate and people get ill again.
So dead cells? There was no way I was contagious.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3753 on: February 14, 2021, 10:06:44 PM »
So dead cells? There was no way I was contagious.
Weak enough that they aren’t capable of replicating enough to infect somebody else, not necessarily completely dead. There are theories / reports the virus particles live in other parts of the body so aren’t expelled from the respiratory system
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3754 on: February 14, 2021, 10:10:55 PM »
So dead cells? There was no way I was contagious.
Just because this is an absolute statement, how do you *know* there is no way you were contagious?

(I agree with you, just asking).
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3755 on: February 14, 2021, 10:19:09 PM »
Just because this is an absolute statement, how do you *know* there is no way you were contagious?

(I agree with you, just asking).
Because if I were contagious someone I was around would no longer be around c"v.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3756 on: February 14, 2021, 10:20:22 PM »
I just want to interject with my anecdotal input. My father had fever last week, took two covid tests at the beginning of the week, one rapid and one non-rapid but same day. Both negative. Fever was persistent, so he retested Friday. Covid positive.

Obviously he could be in the statistical minority, or his fever was unrelated (highly unlikely), but the one story I know of someone who took the test gave a false negative IMO. (Yes, he seems to be fine, thanks for asking.)
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There's an antibody treatment he might want to look into....

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3757 on: February 14, 2021, 11:34:37 PM »
Because if I were contagious someone I was around would no longer be around c"v.
You can be contagious and not infect all (or any) of your contacts.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3758 on: February 15, 2021, 12:46:35 AM »
So for somebody living in the same household and exposed daily, it would be 10 days after the last time the Covid carrier was considered contagious (14/10 days etc)?
Yup. Not fun, but that's what you gotta do. Can be longer if different family members get it during those time periods....
Or they can completely separate rooms/floors in the house (yes, I understand that it can be very hard for some households).

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #3759 on: February 15, 2021, 12:48:44 AM »
Or they can completely separate rooms/floors in the house (yes, I understand that it can be very hard for some households).
Also another benefit of testing, if an asymptomatic family member tests positive they can start the 10/14 day isolation count as opposed to starting quarantine only after 10-14 days from the last exposure.
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