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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4000 on: May 03, 2021, 06:47:07 PM »
Lakewood has a higher percentage of ineligible (under 16) than the state average. I'd imagine Lakewood is at doing better than that when comparing eligible population.
It's only counting eligible. See this tweet


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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4001 on: May 03, 2021, 06:54:58 PM »
They just updated it. Looks like the original numbers were wrong.

The chart was updated after counting a batch of mail-in vaccine records at 4 AM with no supervision.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4002 on: May 04, 2021, 07:00:41 AM »
The number of cases in Lakewood have slowed to really a trickle.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4003 on: May 04, 2021, 07:04:17 AM »
I'm as pro-vax as they come. I'm double vaxxed, even though I had high antibodies before taking the shots.

However, there has not been a singe study with irrefutable evidence that recovered covid patients need a vaccine to remain immune. You cannot conflate being anti vax with not bothering to take a vaccine after having antibodies. It's stupid that people are mixing the two and from my experience this is the vast vast majority of people who aren't bothering with getting vaccinated. Every metro NY heimishe community has an overwhelming majority with antibodies.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4004 on: May 04, 2021, 07:07:38 AM »
And while I'm at it. The biggest proof that we were at herd immunity already in spring of 2020 is that we never had a big wave after that. We had some that were more of a gush, with most just a trickle compared with the population.
Obviously herd immunity has levels. Herd immunity doesn't mean no infections.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4005 on: May 04, 2021, 08:19:12 AM »
And while I'm at it. The biggest proof that we were at herd immunity already in spring of 2020 is that we never had a big wave after that. We had some that were more of a gush, with most just a trickle compared with the population.
Obviously herd immunity has levels. Herd immunity doesn't mean no infections.
Rosh hashana time was definitely a wave.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4006 on: May 04, 2021, 08:26:43 AM »
For anyone interested, CVS on River has many available appointments for J&J vaccine.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 08:52:46 AM by aygart »
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4007 on: May 04, 2021, 08:52:31 AM »
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4008 on: May 04, 2021, 08:52:54 AM »
For anyone interested, CVS on River has many available appointments for J&J vaccine.

FTFY
Checked the vaccine appointment scheduler yesterday and thereís availability everywhere now. Last few times I checked there was maybe a single slot 90 minutes away. Also want to mention that the state actually called me on Sunday asking if I need help scheduling an appointment.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4009 on: May 04, 2021, 10:13:07 AM »
Rosh hashana time was definitely a wave.

That's what I meant with the gush. That's not a wave. Deaths weren't even 5%  of the first wave.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4010 on: May 04, 2021, 10:15:08 AM »
That's what I meant with the gush. That's not a wave. Deaths weren't even 5%  of the first wave.

Are we seriously still using deaths as the barometer for spread? C'mon, you know better than that....
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4011 on: May 04, 2021, 10:19:36 AM »
Are we seriously still using deaths as the parameter for spread? C'mon, you know better than that....

It's a very big part of it.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4012 on: May 04, 2021, 10:20:05 AM »
That's what I meant with the gush. That's not a wave. Deaths weren't even 5%  of the first wave.
What do deaths have anything to do with this? Look at the number of cases...

Either way you're arguing semantics, herd immunity is supposed to protect the herd. It didn't protect in September and onward for many weeks.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4013 on: May 04, 2021, 10:23:16 AM »
It's a very big part of it.

No, it's not. It has nothing to do with it. There's the number of infections, and then there's how we treat those infections. Treatment has nothing to do with spread or herd immunity.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4014 on: May 04, 2021, 10:27:00 AM »
It's a very big part of it.
Not at all. Many deaths can be prevented by better treatment and by those at the most risk taking precautions.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4015 on: May 04, 2021, 03:12:12 PM »
Deaths weren't even 5%  of the first wave.
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There were *at least* 18 deaths in the frum community in the span of 3-4 weeks around Rosh Hashana time, while in the first wave there were between 80-100.
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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4016 on: May 04, 2021, 04:08:17 PM »
Rosh hashana time was definitely a wave.
True for Lakewood, not true for some other places. Noted at the time.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4017 on: May 05, 2021, 03:03:59 PM »
What do deaths have anything to do with this? Look at the number of cases...

Either way you're arguing semantics, herd immunity is supposed to protect the herd. It didn't protect in September and onward for many weeks.
Doesnít mean there wasnít herse immunity. It is very possible that was herd immunity but people visiting for chasunas ruined it. Not that this conversation is gonna help bring back any lives, but no need to give lkwd all the blame

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4018 on: May 05, 2021, 04:02:28 PM »
Doesnít mean there wasnít herd immunity. It is very possible that was herd immunity but people visiting for chasunas ruined it. Not that this conversation is gonna help bring back any lives, but no need to give lkwd all the blame

Having lots of spreaders with plenty of vectors doesn't sound like herd immunity to me.

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Re: Lakewood covid cases
« Reply #4019 on: May 05, 2021, 04:15:19 PM »
Doesnít mean there wasnít herse immunity. It is very possible that was herd immunity but people visiting for chasunas ruined it. Not that this conversation is gonna help bring back any lives, but no need to give lkwd all the blame
Thatís not how herd immunity works. #hamsterwheel
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