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Creek preserve- Wimauma FL
Creek Preserve is a development being built by DR Horton and Lennar Builders. These are single family homes. The development has 674 homes total, all new construction
Lennar Builder is pretty much done in that development.
The community offers amenities like a clubhouse, swimming pool, Playground, and basketball courts.

Pricing & home sizes
Size The homes range from 1500 to 3300 SQ ft.The lot sizes are from 40-60 x 120. There are some lots that back up to a preserve or pondview. Most lots will back other properties.
Prices:prices  range from 370K - 550K depending on the model, lot size and location.
Taxes & HOA:Annual HOA & CDD is 2000K Taxes are approx. 4-5K (after the reassessment)

Rentals:A 5 Bedroom home in the area rents for approximately 2700-2900.
There is minimal maintenance as the properties are brand new and comes with a builders one year warranty.


Home Pricing and Models as of 5/15/2022

DR Horton Pricing
Their base price goes by model and there is an additional charge per lot that goes from 7-45K Premium lots like a corner or over the water will be in the range of 30-40K lot charge.
ALLEX 1,504 3 2: $365,990

DARWIN 1,961 3 2.5: $384,990

ELSTON 2,260 4 2.5 : $400,990

ROBIE 2,447 5 3: $406,990

ARIA 1,672 3 2 : $385,990

CALI 1,828 4 2 : $398,990

ENSLEY 2,371 4 3 : $415,990

HAYDEN 2,605 5 3 : 428,990

LAUREL 1,844 3 2 : $391,990

LANTANA 2,045 4 2.5 : $409,990

CORAL 2,756 4 3 : $431,990

HEMINGWAY 2,934 5 3 2 ELEV G: $446,990

HOLDEN 3,313 4 3 2 ELEV G: $461,990



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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #360 on: October 27, 2020, 03:06:07 PM »
If this really takes off, there will always be frum people interested in these houses. You can always sell and buy in the new development next door.
Yes its possible but why start off with that? I am sure there are different options or they should give different options.

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« Reply #361 on: October 27, 2020, 03:16:01 PM »
Yes its possible but why start off with that? I am sure there are different options or they should give different options.

For what they are trying to do, the options are limited. They need to be able to work with the developer, the local government, and deliver on their promises to the people who already put down deposits. The need housing that meets their budget, a location that can have a shul readily accessible, and a school that is certified with the proper facilities. They need to meet the timeline they set, as people have to plan in advance for housing, schooling, work, moving, etc. There are a lot of moving pieces here.

If people look at these places as starter homes, I think this can work well, even with all the restrictions.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #362 on: October 27, 2020, 03:21:19 PM »
For what they are trying to do, the options are limited. They need to be able to work with the developer, the local government, and deliver on their promises to the people who already put down deposits. The need housing that meets their budget, a location that can have a shul readily accessible, and a school that is certified with the proper facilities. They need to meet the timeline they set, as people have to plan in advance for housing, schooling, work, moving, etc. There are a lot of moving pieces here.

If people look at these places as starter homes, I think this can work well, even with all the restrictions.
The 2 bigger options don't even need to be starters, while they're not 3500sqf they're not tiny either. If it takes off there will be people interested in the smaller ones as starters and/or vacation rentals.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #363 on: October 27, 2020, 03:22:00 PM »
Maybe people want to live in a gatored community
All the more reason to keep kids out
Ah that's the reason they are usually exclusively for 55+ :)

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« Reply #364 on: October 27, 2020, 03:23:28 PM »
Ah that's the reason they are usually exclusively for 55+ :)

Other way around... that's why they let the gators in. Helps keep it 55+.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #365 on: October 27, 2020, 03:25:09 PM »
By the way,
I wonder why people don't ask all these questions to most Monsey area residents who moved out to small high ranches or colonials.

The price is low, 2600ft is not tiny, all you need is invest a little more money to make it perfect.

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« Reply #366 on: October 27, 2020, 03:25:26 PM »
The 2 bigger options don't even need to be starters, while they're not 3500sqf they're not tiny either. If it takes off there will be people interested in the smaller ones as starters and/or vacation rentals.

The smaller houses can work out, as well, once people adjust. I'm just saying that if people don't look at this place as the neighborhood they are tied to for the rest of their lives, there's no reason this can't work. It gets the ball rolling. It will be much easier to build future communities (and/or expand on that one) once people are living here already.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #367 on: October 27, 2020, 03:27:44 PM »
By the way,
I wonder why people don't ask all these questions to most Monsey area residents who moved out to small high ranches or colonials.

The price is low, 2600ft is not tiny, all you need is invest a little more money to make it perfect.

Were those purpose built from scratch?
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #368 on: October 27, 2020, 03:28:38 PM »
By the way,
I wonder why people don't ask all these questions to most Monsey area residents who moved out to small high ranches or colonials.

These houses typically have lots of private outdoor space, which helps. More importantly, to be a Nachshon you need to have a serious incentive. And to collect 100 Nachshonim, you'd want something that appeals to many.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #369 on: October 27, 2020, 03:30:54 PM »
Were those purpose built from scratch?
I agree, It was not, however people felt the need of moving out and they just made it livable.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #370 on: October 27, 2020, 03:31:29 PM »
These houses typically have lots of private outdoor space, which helps. More importantly, to be a Nachshon you need to have a serious incentive. And to collect 100 Nachshonim, you'd want something that appeals to many.
This is something they're not going to have, but it's still better than Brooklyn.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #371 on: October 27, 2020, 03:38:24 PM »
@mendyt you said I would label most as Normal center chasidish families could you please elaborate from which Chasedis?

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #372 on: October 27, 2020, 03:39:45 PM »
By the way,
I wonder why people don't ask all these questions to most Monsey area residents who moved out to small high ranches or colonials.

The price is low, 2600ft is not tiny, all you need is invest a little more money to make it perfect.

100%. Chestnut Ridge etc.. The only reason why people are saying "hey" is because to lechatchila build something not yiddish is weird. If it is take it or leave it its good.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #373 on: October 27, 2020, 03:40:40 PM »
@mendyt you said I would label most as Normal center chasidish families could you please elaborate from which Chasedis?
Probably all.

As I wrote in my longer post, I did not speak with everyone, but I did meet:
Satmer
Belz
Gur
Pupa
Viznits
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« Reply #374 on: October 27, 2020, 03:41:02 PM »
These houses typically have lots of private outdoor space, which helps. More importantly, to be a Nachshon you need to have a serious incentive. And to collect 100 Nachshonim, you'd want something that appeals to many.

because this is whats available so people just buy it & figure out a way to make it work!

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #375 on: October 27, 2020, 03:42:13 PM »
Probably all.

As I wrote in my longer post, I did not speak with everyone, but I did meet:
Satmer
Belz
Gur
Pupa
Viznits
Neutral

if its a mix that's very healthy. I like what i am seeing.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #376 on: October 27, 2020, 03:45:53 PM »
if its a mix that's very healthy. I like what i am seeing.
That's exactly what I meant.

I grew up in Monsey, (original Monsey)
We were surrounded with secular Jews, and our closest neighbors were hardcore litfaks or BT lubab, and we all got along very very well.
Personally, I would love to see Jews from all sectors not just Chasidim, and I hope that eventually it will.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #377 on: October 27, 2020, 03:46:49 PM »
Its all very legit concerns, but for the person with 5 kids living in a 2 BR apt in Brooklyn 975 sq ft total with no bathroom in master BR (which is 9 * 9 sq ft big) and no playroom and no living space and has only $40k-50k saved for down payment (from unemployment that he filed for himself and his wife :-*), He should wait another few years in his cramped apt because MAYBE someone will have to offer a bathtub and playroom is.............
Still not understating why FL will be better then NJ besides income tax..

Life in Florida will be more expansive. think travel alone to NY for any family related event.

You can get in Lakewood a new townhouse with 2500 SQF for 300-400K or a larger house with a finished basement for a rental for 600-700k

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #378 on: October 27, 2020, 03:53:28 PM »
Still not understating why FL will be better then NJ

Life in Florida will be more expansive.


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« Reply #379 on: October 27, 2020, 03:58:20 PM »
Still not understating why FL will be better then NJ besides income tax..

Income tax, VPK/Step Up, generally lower COL, your vote counts, fewer Dem-agogues, one of the fastest growing states/economies, NO SNOW.
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