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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #465 on: October 29, 2020, 10:15:38 AM »
Do you think Tampa development and surrounding land won't sky rocket once its a success?
I can already see investors buying the land etc...
There's a lot of land around there.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #466 on: October 29, 2020, 11:22:22 AM »
Do you think Tampa development and surrounding land won't sky rocket once its a success?
I can already see investors buying the land etc...

Land is very plentiful in that area, you can buy up how much you want and there will still be more....

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #467 on: October 29, 2020, 12:10:38 PM »
is everyone forgetting about finding jobs. not everyone can work remotely and/or have their own businesses.

this issue is arguably the biggest reason why the Orlando FL jewish community has not been more successful.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #468 on: October 29, 2020, 12:16:27 PM »
is everyone forgetting about finding jobs. not everyone can work remotely and/or have their own businesses.

this issue is arguably the biggest reason why the Orlando FL jewish community has not been more successful.
Obviously for the time being this is only an option for those who can continue their current job or work in the schools.

What type of crowd is the Orlando community trying to attract?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #469 on: October 29, 2020, 02:04:54 PM »
is everyone forgetting about finding jobs. not everyone can work remotely and/or have their own businesses.

this issue is arguably the biggest reason why the Orlando FL jewish community has not been more successful.

You are 100% right. Yidden have always been wandering from place to place & with trust in Hashem they will figure it out. I am sure there are plenty of middle of the road jobs that can be had. Has to be worked out with Shabbos, Yom Tov etc. but to start its OK

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #470 on: October 29, 2020, 04:25:46 PM »
is everyone forgetting about finding jobs. not everyone can work remotely and/or have their own businesses.

this issue is arguably the biggest reason why the Orlando FL jewish community has not been more successful.
So let me explain you how atleast the chasidish economy works as I have seen it , as you can see most chasidish people that move to Lakewood or monsey or monroe end up working there or opening up businesses or stores there ,there is all kinds of sub contractor companies in Lakewood owned by chasidim now days besides local stores.

The local shul and moisdes alone employs a decent amount of yiden included women,with kosher stores and needed shops and so all kind of different construction industries like sub contractos and so on , then Amazon businesses will be enough jobs  , finance like mortgage brokers and insurance agents , the list is long
Hashem has his plan

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #471 on: October 29, 2020, 04:29:14 PM »
So let me explain you how atleast thw chasidish economy works , as you can see most chasidish people that move to Lakewood or monsey or monroe end up working there or opening up businesses or stores there

The local shul and moisdes alome employs a decent amount,with kosher stores and needed shops and so all kind of different construction industries like sub contractos and so on , then Amazon businesses will be enough , finance like mortgage brokers and insurance agents , the list is long

Man, you're so stuck in Kansas. This isn't how it works in the rest of the country. The local mosdos need money in order to support all those employees, and if the kosher stores and restaurants aren't bringing in outside business, the community is still limited in its total income.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #472 on: October 29, 2020, 04:36:19 PM »
One guy can get a job farentferring on DDF
Another can put bath tubs in all the master bathrooms
Another can trap the alligators

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #473 on: October 29, 2020, 04:40:49 PM »
Man, you're so stuck in Kansas. This isn't how it works in the rest of the country. The local mosdos need money in order to support all those employees, and if the kosher stores and restaurants aren't bringing in outside business, the community is still limited in its total income.
Well you not getting the point, better said you don't want to

Better explanation in the little bloomingburg or viznitz kaimisha most of the jobs are within the community between  themselves, well the moisdes has money because there is choice program ,right? Is that one of the reasons going there?
Not talking about restaurant
There is need for grocery ,fish,butcher, dry goods, clothing ,talking about daily important needs ,not luxury

A local plumber and electrician and so on

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #474 on: October 29, 2020, 04:42:28 PM »
So let me explain you how atleast the chasidish economy works as I have seen it , as you can see most chasidish people that move to Lakewood or monsey or monroe end up working there or opening up businesses or stores there ,there is all kinds of sub contractor companies in Lakewood owned by chasidim now days besides local stores.

The local shul and moisdes alone employs a decent amount of yiden included women,with kosher stores and needed shops and so all kind of different construction industries like sub contractos and so on , then Amazon businesses will be enough jobs  , finance like mortgage brokers and insurance agents , the list is long
Hashem has his plan
Unless you can prove income in FL, you're going to have a very difficult time getting approved for a mortgage. I think that may be a pretty big roadblock for many.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #475 on: October 29, 2020, 04:44:54 PM »
Well you not getting the point, better said you don't want to

Better explanation in the little bloomingburg or viznitz kaimisha most of the jobs are within the community between  themselves, well the moisdes has money because there is choice program ,right? Is that one of the reasons going there?
Not talking about restaurant
There is need for grocery ,fish,butcher, dry goods, clothing ,talking about daily important needs ,not luxury

A local plumber and electrician and so on
100 families aren't going to support any of these jobs. I think you're oversimplifying it and @Lurker is overcomplicating it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #476 on: October 29, 2020, 04:48:20 PM »
Well you not getting the point, better said you don't want to

Better explanation in the little bloomingburg or viznitz kaimisha most of the jobs are within the community between  themselves, well the moisdes has money because there is choice program ,right? Is that one of the reasons going there?
Not talking about restaurant
There is need for grocery ,fish,butcher, dry goods, clothing ,talking about daily important needs ,not luxury

A local plumber and electrician and so on

I understand how the heimishe economy works. Without a few people with deep pockets, it falls apart. In order for them to all eat, there needs to be a certain amount of money made from outside of the community. All those businesses you listed - grocery, fish, butcher, dry goods, clothing, plumber, electrician - they are all recycling the same money, going from Duvi's pocket to Yoeli's to Eli's. Except the goods everyone is consuming in the process also costs money. Without outside money, it runs dry pretty quick.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #477 on: October 29, 2020, 04:53:17 PM »
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #478 on: October 29, 2020, 05:17:48 PM »
I understand how the heimishe economy works. Without a few people with deep pockets, it falls apart. In order for them to all eat, there needs to be a certain amount of money made from outside of the community. All those businesses you listed - grocery, fish, butcher, dry goods, clothing, plumber, electrician - they are all recycling the same money, going from Duvi's pocket to Yoeli's to Eli's. Except the goods everyone is consuming in the process also costs money. Without outside money, it runs dry pretty quick.
There will be government money coming in from the schools as well as people working remote and self employed (for example Amazon).
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #479 on: October 29, 2020, 06:01:11 PM »
I understand how the heimishe economy works. Without a few people with deep pockets, it falls apart. In order for them to all eat, there needs to be a certain amount of money made from outside of the community. All those businesses you listed - grocery, fish, butcher, dry goods, clothing, plumber, electrician - they are all recycling the same money, going from Duvi's pocket to Yoeli's to Eli's. Except the goods everyone is consuming in the process also costs money. Without outside money, it runs dry pretty quick.
That's how world economics works baby

Money Goes from rechel to mechel 
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For a fact is like That in bloomingburg with around 150 families most jobs are within the community as follows

Dayen
Mikva yid/shamesh
Over a dozen Melamdim/rebbees
English teachers
Building manager
Moisdes administrators
Bus drivers
Grocery owner
Few grocery employees
Fish store owner
Hardware store owner
Handyman
Women teachers
Secretaries
Pizza shop owner
Car service drivers
Real estate agents
Mortgage broker
Contractors
Developers
Cc processing agent
A local guy with a huge amazon company employs a few employees
Sofer
Real estate management companies
Local Shuttle to nearby areas
Medical center manager
And many many more