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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #480 on: October 29, 2020, 06:08:33 PM »
Real estate agents
Mortgage broker
Contractors
Developers
Cc processing agent
A local guy with a huge amazon company employs a few employees
Real estate management companies
Medical center manager

This is all outside money. What's the average income for all these people?
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #481 on: October 29, 2020, 06:20:00 PM »
This is all outside money. What's the average income for all these people?

I am not quiet sure what you mean by outside money

Enough money to cover their lifestyle
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #482 on: October 29, 2020, 06:21:42 PM »
Enough money to cover their lifestyle

And how much goes to cover other people's lifestyles?
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #483 on: October 29, 2020, 06:30:10 PM »
I am not quiet sure what you mean by outside money

It means that the money they make comes from people other than the 150 families living in their community.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #484 on: October 29, 2020, 06:52:12 PM »
And how much goes to cover other people's lifestyles?
Fact check that the kind of people that doing such move ,their expenses are a fraction of what in town towners spend for others...

1 example most people in
bloomingburg,
Jersey city
viznits kaimisha
Monticello (currently living over there about 100 all year round families b"h)
Most of them if they own a car it's a old car for a few thousand bucks not a new lease every 24 months plus expensive car insurance

The list is long

You just arguing with facts , people that are ready to do such jumps is not your typical macher...

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #485 on: October 29, 2020, 06:56:45 PM »
Fact check that the kind of people that doing such move ,their expenses are a fraction of what in town towners spend for others...

1 example most people in
bloomingburg,
Jersey city
viznits kaimisha
Monticello (currently living over there about 100 all year round families b"h)
Most of them if they own a car it's a old car for a few thousand bucks not a new lease every 24 months plus expensive car insurance

The list is long

You just arguing with facts , people that are ready to do such jumps is not your typical macher...

This post made zero sense and didn't answer the question. You made a list of jobs. A large percentage of those people work for the shul or other mosdos. Where do the mosdos get the money to pay those salaries?
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #486 on: October 29, 2020, 07:19:12 PM »
This post made zero sense and didn't answer the question. You made a list of jobs. A large percentage of those people work for the shul or other mosdos. Where do the mosdos get the money to pay those salaries?
From the government

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #487 on: October 29, 2020, 07:58:46 PM »
From the government

I guess I'm asking the wrong questions...

Do they sell kibbudim? Which ones go for the most money? How much do they go for? Is there a name on the shul? The school? Are there a couple of machers who are known as tzaddikim, big baalei tzedaka?
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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #488 on: October 29, 2020, 08:13:40 PM »
That's how world economics works baby

Money Goes from rechel to mechel 
מען האנדעלט און מען וואנדעלט

For a fact is like That in bloomingburg with around 150 families most jobs are within the community as follows

Dayen
Mikva yid/shamesh
Over a dozen Melamdim/rebbees
English teachers
Building manager
Moisdes administrators
Bus drivers
Grocery owner
Few grocery employees
Fish store owner
Hardware store owner
Handyman
Women teachers
Secretaries
Pizza shop owner
Car service drivers
Real estate agents
Mortgage broker
Contractors
Developers
Cc processing agent
A local guy with a huge amazon company employs a few employees
Sofer
Real estate management companies
Local Shuttle to nearby areas
Medical center manager
And many many more

And even @yesitsme  makes a few pennies

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #489 on: October 30, 2020, 12:56:00 AM »
The solution is one word
Anyone that does something for the good is the solution!
Laying in bed and mocking everything on a public forum Is just very easy to do

But
Bloomingburg
Jersey city
Linden
Staten island
And so on didn't work out because people mocking it

מען דארף טין און נישט אויפטין....
 
For a fact is like That in bloomingburg with around 150 families most jobs are within the community as follows

We've been through all of this in the opening discussion of this thread.

You can't really compare Tampa to Bloomingburg, SI, JC etc, as they all rely on NY's Jewish infrastructure. SI on BP, Bloomingburg on KJ and JC on Williamsburg. Tampa is a 4 hour drive from Miami, and even Miami lacks the facilities to accommodate a large new chassidish community. This is an undertaking on a whole new level.




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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #490 on: October 30, 2020, 11:17:33 AM »
is everyone forgetting about finding jobs. not everyone can work remotely and/or have their own businesses.

this issue is arguably the biggest reason why the Orlando FL jewish community has not been more successful.

 Orlando and Tampa have a lot of real estate management/ construction jobs that are Jewish owned.
 there is a lot of opportunities there for real estate type of jobs

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #491 on: October 30, 2020, 12:20:24 PM »
So let me explain you how atleast the chasidish economy works as I have seen it , as you can see most chasidish people that move to Lakewood or monsey or monroe end up working there or opening up businesses or stores there ,there is all kinds of sub contractor companies in Lakewood owned by chasidim now days besides local stores.

The local shul and moisdes alone employs a decent amount of yiden included women,with kosher stores and needed shops and so all kind of different construction industries like sub contractos and so on , then Amazon businesses will be enough jobs  , finance like mortgage brokers and insurance agents , the list is long
Hashem has his plan

כיוון שעלה עמוד השחר נכנסו חכמי ישראל אצלו אמרו לו אדונינו המלך עמך ישראל צריכין פרנסה אמר להם לכו והתפרנסו זה מזה אמרו לו אין הקומץ משביע את הארי ואין הבור מתמלא מחולייתו אמר להם לכו ופשטו ידיכם בגדוד
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #492 on: October 31, 2020, 10:17:34 PM »
כיוון שעלה עמוד השחר נכנסו חכמי ישראל אצלו אמרו לו אדונינו המלך עמך ישראל צריכין פרנסה אמר להם לכו והתפרנסו זה מזה אמרו לו אין הקומץ משביע את הארי ואין הבור מתמלא מחולייתו אמר להם לכו ופשטו ידיכם בגדוד
come 2020 and פשטו ידיכם בגדוד is an option #blm

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #493 on: November 03, 2020, 06:45:23 PM »
Showings today in Tampa , let's hope for a success, people are taking it seriously

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Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
« Reply #494 on: November 06, 2020, 10:54:49 AM »
I wish they would start with bigger and Jewish built houses would be so much more tempting.