Author Topic: Stella Immanuel Asks Why We Don't Prescribe Prophylactic Hydroxychloroquine  (Read 9060 times)

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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 10:43:50 PM »


The video got taken down...
Ridiculous censorship...
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2020, 02:32:38 AM »
The video got taken down...
Ridiculous censorship...

I’m against censorship (including here) but the 10 minutes that I watched was in fact filled with fake news. Naming yourself “America’s front line” as a make believe official org doesn’t make it any more real either.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2020, 02:33:44 AM »
I’m against censorship (including here) but the 10 minutes that I watched was in fact filled with fake news. Naming yourself “America’s front line” as a make believe official org doesn’t make it any more real either.

I only watched a piece about HCQ
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2020, 02:45:19 AM »
I only watched a piece about HCQ

I’m mostly referring to a blatant lie about children literally never transmitting corona - despite numerous studies to the contrary, in fact studies from South Korea show that children ages 10-19 transmit corona just as effectively as adults. The segment about fear is the same segment I’ve been hearing since early February, when corona was supposedly 100x safer than the flu.

Re HCQ: Saw that as well. Won’t argue with the anecdotal evidence, but won’t readily believe it over the double blind randomized studies showing its ineffective when there hasn’t been a rigid study proving any efficacy. Still it’s sad that it became political because I’m not against people using it. But making claims about its unbelievable efficacy purely based on anecdotal evidence after having 6 months to study it and coming up with blanks, is pretty much fake news for me.

I’m curious how many of these “front line” doctors actually work on the front lines. I didn’t hear any of them say something like - I work in a Florida/Texas/Arizona hospital. Because the ones that actually do, don’t sound anything like this.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2020, 09:30:53 AM »


Re HCQ: Saw that as well. Won’t argue with the anecdotal evidence, but won’t readily believe it over the double blind randomized studies showing its ineffective when there hasn’t been a rigid study proving any efficacy. Still it’s sad that it became political because I’m not against people using it. But making claims about its unbelievable efficacy purely based on anecdotal evidence after having 6 months to study it and coming up with blanks, is pretty much fake news for me.


There was a Henry ford study which all the news sites seem to have conveniently forgotten about..

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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2020, 09:58:04 AM »
There was a Henry ford study which all the news sites seem to have conveniently forgotten about..

That was not a rigid study. Wasn't randomized at all.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2020, 10:21:26 AM »
That was not a rigid study. Wasn't randomized at all.
Ok - but why does every left wing news site call the drug discredited, talk about the studies that were discontinued... not a word about the retracted lancet study, Henry Ford study? And why is Twitter and Facebook removing the video?  They also require a "rigid study"? Is there a "Rigid study" regarding face masks, social distancing, etc.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2020, 10:30:58 AM »
Ok - but why does every left wing news site call the drug discredited, talk about the studies that were discontinued...

Because they listen to the FDA, as the law requires them to.

Now if only we'd vote Trump in so he can take control of the FDA and remove their political decision making...
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2020, 11:01:14 AM »
Ok - but why does every left wing news site call the drug discredited, talk about the studies that were discontinued... not a word about the retracted lancet study, Henry Ford study?

Because that's what the MSM does. I might also mention there are double blind studies showing the HCQ is ineffective, so the lack of a comparably rigorous study proving it wrong, I'll go with where the scientific evidence is pointing. Don't forget - we're 6 months and dozens of HCQ studies into this, and still have yet to see any proving it's efficacy in a double blind randomized study. At this point there should more than just anecdotal evidence to rely on.

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And why is Twitter and Facebook removing the video?  They also require a "rigid study"? Is there a "Rigid study" regarding face masks, social distancing, etc.

I don't know, because as usual they love to censor? I don't believe in censorship even for fake news videos, but the truth is there is real harm caused by the fake news they are touting. Telling people not to wear masks, claiming that the corona is 100% cured and to not be careful anymore, claiming that children can't transmit corona, calling themselves America's frontline to deceive people, etc. When they removed the video, I disagree with it, but I understand them.

OTOH, Mask science is real and has been proven dozens of times over. If you need links to the studies, I can post it.

I'd like to add, that the fact that there is a certain political agenda against HCQ, does not mean that HCQ must be effective. The university of Minnesota conducted a double blind randomized study with a bias to try and prove that HCQ is effective, and they ended up finding out otherwise.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2020, 11:48:09 AM »
https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1288134904140767234

Will we ever see animal masks mandated?
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2020, 01:07:32 PM »
The video got taken down...
Ridiculous censorship...

Look up Dr. Stella Immanuel. If that's the best spokesperson they could come up with, I'm ok with a little Soviet-style censorship here.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2020, 01:37:31 PM »
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2020, 01:40:28 PM »

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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2020, 01:59:10 PM »
Look up Dr. Stella Immanuel. If that's the best spokesperson they could come up with, I'm ok with a little Soviet-style censorship here.
Link? I did a quick google search and didn't notice anything alarming.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 04:37:18 PM »
I’m curious how many of these “front line” doctors actually work on the front lines. I didn’t hear any of them say something like - I work in a Florida/Texas/Arizona hospital. Because the ones that actually do, don’t sound anything like this.

Because once they get to the hospital its too late. Dr Zelenko has been saying this for months. The HCQ and Zinc is to prevent the patent from getting serious enough that he ever needs to go the hospital. All the studies that found HCQ to be ineffective were done either without Zinc or after the patient was already very ill.

Like everything in the world, you need to follow the money. There is no money made from HCQ so its pushed down. Its very simple

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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2020, 04:40:46 PM »
Because once they get to the hospital its too late. Dr Zelenko has been saying this for months. The HCQ and Zinc is to prevent the patent from getting serious enough that he ever needs to go the hospital. All the studies that found HCQ to be ineffective were done either without Zinc or after the patient was already very ill.

Like everything in the world, you need to follow the money. There is no money made from HCQ so its pushed down. Its very simple
You honestly believe that doctors are not using something they believe works because there is no money?
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2020, 04:46:26 PM »
You honestly believe that doctors are not using something they believe works because there is no money?

Read his interview in the yated from a few weeks ago and you decide.
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Re: Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2020, 04:49:31 PM »
Because they are believe there will be pushback from the media/ pharmaceutical companies and they will get in trouble. There will be a "boycott" against them or something similar. Yes 100%. There was just a study that shows that americans are scared to express their true beliefs about anything bc they will get in trouble at heir job, with their family, lose their friends etc. Its much easier to remain silent. And the torah has already told us Hakesef yaaneh is hakol. This isnt rocket science. You dont see how the media portrays anything trump related or trump supported?