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When Will This Board Be Closed?

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2020, 01:19:09 PM »
I agree with you on this. 3 months ago I really thought life would never be the same. As time moved on and we see that all people want is life to be back to normal. So I really do think that once there's an effective vaccine life will go back to normal more or less. Maybe more hand washing and things like that. But I don't think it'll be like 9/11 that changed flying forever. 3 months ago I really did think that would be the case. Now I think life will be back to normal.
One of the greatest fallibilities of the human brain is thinking that things will always be as they are now. It's why people commit suicide and get depressed.

Certainly not limited to you, but 3 months ago you saw something and assumed it would stay that way forever. Now you see something else and change your assumption.

Things have a way of swinging back to how they were over time. Just ask a dieter what happens over time after they lose weight.

I haven't seen anything compelling to tell me things will be massively different in the future from what they were in the past because of COVID19.

1918 Spanish flu was far more deadly than COVID19 so far. What did that change long term other than all of the casualties? It was mostly an afterthought until now.
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2020, 01:31:56 PM »
What specifically?

Did you click on the post I quoted to see what I was talking about?

ZIRP, soon to be NIRP and total yield curve manipulation. Major social and economic policy shifts. If indeed there will be a blue sweep as many are predicting, what kind of consequences do you think we will see? Don't you think that if that happens COVID-19 would have a lot to do with it as a contributing factor?
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2020, 01:54:54 PM »
I haven't seen anything compelling to tell me things will be massively different in the future from what they were in the past because of COVID19.

1918 Spanish flu was far more deadly than COVID19 so far. What did that change long term other than all of the casualties? It was mostly an afterthought until now.

I agree in theory that things are mostly going to bounce right back, but there are a few things to watch

1) Reversal of the urbanization trend? Manhattan is straight out collapsing. Buildings are reporting 30% occupancy. Between increasing taxes (Trum revoking the local tax deduction & Cuomo raising the possibility of taxing NY stock trades), ever-increasing improvements in virtual communication technologies, and liberal policies promoting anarchy & crime (the city is housing homeless people in hotels in prime neighborhoods), city life is becoming less and less palatable.

2) Permanent changes in Corporate travel habits? I think leisure travel will make up for any slack in corporate travel policies, but this is something to watch.

3) Global macro economics. Gold is up 30% for the year and at an all time record. While Trump has been remarkably cautious, there will no alternative but printing a large amount of USD. The government makes the burden of complying with US banking laws & sanctions more and more onerous. Will we see the USD lose it's position as the global reserve currency? Goldman Sachs is warning about this possibility. Its effects would be more geopolitical than economical, as the US being a net exporter stands to benefit from a lower USD value.

4) Any large seismic shifts will have a large impact on many lives as industries fail and others emerge in their place.
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2020, 02:01:35 PM »
I agree in theory that things are mostly going to bounce right back, but there are a few things to watch

1) Reversal of the urbanization trend? Manhattan is straight out collapsing. Buildings are reporting 30% occupancy. Between increasing taxes (Trum revoking the local tax deduction & Cuomo raising the possibility of taxing NY stock trades), ever-increasing improvements in virtual communication technologies, and liberal policies promoting anarchy & crime (the city is housing homeless people in hotels in prime neighborhoods), city life is becoming less and less palatable.

2) Permanent changes in Corporate travel habits? I think leisure travel will make up for any slack in corporate travel policies, but this is something to watch.

3) Global macro economics. Gold is up 30% for the year and at an all time record. While Trump has been remarkably cautious, there will no alternative but printing a large amount of USD. The government makes the burden of complying with US banking laws & sanctions more and more onerous. Will we see the USD lose it's position as the global reserve currency? Goldman Sachs is warning about this possibility. Its effects would be more geopolitical than economical, as the US being a net exporter stands to benefit from a lower USD value.

4) Any large seismic shifts will have a large impact on many lives as industries fail and others emerge in their place.
1. I believe this trend started before COVID-19 with falling rents and urban exodus. This isn't a change so much as acceleration of the trend.
2. Short-term, definitely. But I think it will recover and then some within a few years, so I don't see this as a lasting change.
3. Gold always goes up in times of economic uncertainty. Not sure I'd make a long-term bet on systemic change there.
4. The industries that are failing, like retail, were failing before COVID-19. This is also an acceleration, not a change.
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2020, 02:06:35 PM »
1. I believe this trend started before COVID-19 with falling rents and urban exodus. This isn't a change so much as acceleration of the trend.
2. Short-term, definitely. But I think it will recover and then some within a few years, so I don't see this as a lasting change.
3. Gold always goes up in times of economic uncertainty. Not sure I'd make a long-term bet on systemic change there.
4. The industries that are failing, like retail, were failing before COVID-19. This is also an acceleration, not a change.
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2020, 02:46:01 PM »
This board will be closed when COVID isn't an all-encompassing topic in our lives. When that happens and what exactly that means remains to be seen.

Once it (IH"Y!) becomes a background issue it can be discussed further in the appropriate topic boards.

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2020, 02:47:39 PM »
Maybe we can time it for next Tisha Bav. Considering how many members are gonna be losing 95% of their post counts 😈
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2020, 02:54:50 PM »
Maybe we can time it for next Tisha Bav. Considering how many members are gonna be losing 95% of their post counts 😈

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2020, 03:05:38 PM »
Maybe we can time it for next Tisha Bav. Considering how many members are gonna be losing 95% of their post counts 😈

And instantly raising like/post ratios to compensate....
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2020, 03:20:30 PM »
Maybe we can time it for next Tisha Bav. Considering how many members are gonna be losing 95% of their post counts 😈

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2020, 03:29:38 PM »
One of the greatest fallibilities of the human brain is thinking that things will always be as they are now. It's why people commit suicide and get depressed.

Certainly not limited to you, but 3 months ago you saw something and assumed it would stay that way forever. Now you see something else and change your assumption.

Things have a way of swinging back to how they were over time. Just ask a dieter what happens over time after they lose weight.

I haven't seen anything compelling to tell me things will be massively different in the future from what they were in the past because of COVID19.

1918 Spanish flu was far more deadly than COVID19 so far. What did that change long term other than all of the casualties? It was mostly an afterthought until now.
Couldn't sum it up better. We have a human tendency to be consumed by whatever crisis is happening at the time and not see that around the bend things are much brighter.
IMO life will resume exactly as it were pre COVID. If there are any changes, they will be things we choose to do differently because we recognize the benefits of said changes ( For example, many companies are much more comfortable with employees working remotely.)

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2020, 03:33:49 PM »
And instantly raising like/post ratios to compensate....
Unless there is a clawback on likes as well.

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2020, 05:43:44 PM »
Most threads in this board would belong in General Discussion.

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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2020, 05:45:26 PM »
Dude it's erev Tisha Bav not erev Purim
He said threads, not posts. I think the majority of threads started seriously and then went completely off the rails.
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Re: Poll: When Will This Board (Finally) Be Closed?
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2020, 08:23:05 PM »
From the vote it's clear that it's going to be a discussion for a while, not to the same degree it is now obviously, but the conspiracies will come just like people talk still talk about 9/11. But at some point it's going to turn into "regular" news and that point is hopefully going to be long after this thread is closed. I think personally it should be moved to back burner once all (or most) countries relieve their restrictions.