Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?

[PlatinumGuy]

I wouldn't start with the most high-risk people. I would start with very active people in the 20-40 demo who haven't had the virus set . If we can't achieve herd immunity, at least let the vaccine work to limit the spread as much as possible. It has an added benefit of giving the vaccine to people who are most likely to be able to handle adverse effects, should they arise.

Hard to imagine a scenario where the first priority isn't nursing homes and healthcare workers. It would seem the challenge is more about distribution than manufacturing, so I would assume anybody who would be willing to pay a little bit for somebody to inject it will be able to get it fairly early.

I think there's a good chance the government will have to pay people to take it when there are more doses than volunteers

[yzj]

Then there’s the minor issue of Pfizer’s vaccine needing cold storage of -94F. That’s going to be a logistical nightmare when it comes to distribution.

[PlatinumGuy]

Then there’s the minor issue of Pfizer’s vaccine needing cold storage of -94F. That’s going to be a logistical nightmare when it comes to distribution.

I think that's fairly common in food distribution warehouses, but I wonder what kind of point-of-care facility would have that capacity.  It has to stay at that temperature all the way until injection? 24h would make all the difference...

[S209]

I think that's fairly common in food distribution warehouses, but I wonder what kind of point-of-care facility would have that capacity.  It has to stay at that temperature all the way until injection? 24h would make all the difference...

From the article I linked

Late last month, Pfizer outlined an ambitious vaccine distribution effort centered on sites in Michigan and Belgium. Because the mRNA vaccine has be stored at minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit, the plan includes shipping containers that can keep doses at that temperature for 10 days. And the company has lined up additional locations in Wisconsin and Germany for storage.

[PlatinumGuy]

From the article I linked

Capitalism at it's finest. Long live America

[AsherO]

I think that's fairly common in food distribution warehouses, but I wonder what kind of point-of-care facility would have that capacity.  It has to stay at that temperature all the way until injection? 24h would make all the difference...

I don’t think it has to be that cold until injection, I recall reading relatively warmer temperatures (but still much colder than commercial freezers) for a few days prior to injection.

In any case this will be a hinderance towards targeting certain demographics with limited vaccine supplies, unless you can get them to all come to the same location at around the same time.

[AsherO]

Capitalism at it's finest. Long live America

Or: Greed that will destroy us and cause lives to be lost. #latestagecapitalism

[yzj]

I don’t think it has to be that cold until injection, I recall reading relatively warmer temperatures (but still much colder than commercial freezers) for a few days prior to injection.

In any case this will be a hinderance towards targeting certain demographics with limited vaccine supplies, unless you can get them to all come to the same location at around the same time.

It’s 24 hours in the fridge and -94F or less until that point.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/pfizer-win-covid-vaccine-race-distributing-matter/story%3fid=72862724

[yzj]

https://www.laboratoryequipment.com/569702-Hurdle-1-Develop-COVID-19-Vaccine-Hurdle-2-Deliver-it-at-Ultra-low-Temperatures/

[S209]

It’s 24 hours in the fridge and -94F or less until that point.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/pfizer-win-covid-vaccine-race-distributing-matter/story%3fid=72862724

Fascinating. From the article

Pfizer said it would be partnering with UPS to create mobile "freezer farms" that contain 48,000 vaccines and are strategically placed throughout the country for swift distribution.

[yzj]

90% effective! Far better than they were anticipating. Has the potential to be a game changer. I’d love to eat crow on this one.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27P1CT

[AsherO]

It’s 24 hours in the fridge and -94F or less until that point.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/pfizer-win-covid-vaccine-race-distributing-matter/story%3fid=72862724

What percentage of doses will go to waste because they expired past said 24 hour refrigeration? This will especially be a problem if a higher percentage of people than expected won’t trust the vaccine.

[Kobe Bryant]

[JMHO]

Fascinating. From the article

Pfizer said it would be partnering with UPS to create mobile "freezer farms" that contain 48,000 vaccines and are strategically placed throughout the country for swift distribution.

Hmmm, I wonder why they wouldn't use USPS lol

[S209]

90% effective! Far better than they were anticipating. Has the potential to be a game changer. I’d love to eat crow on this one.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27P1CT

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

Unreal. This is undoubtedly the biggest news in the fight against COVID since March. If this would have been announced on November 2 I wonder how it would have impacted the election..

[Kobe Bryant]

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

Unreal. This is undoubtedly the biggest news in the fight against COVID since March. If this would have been announced on November 2 I wonder how it would have impacted the election..

Or if people actually believed Trump and the democratic candidate and Co. wouldn’t have down played it.....

[Proisrael]

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

Unreal. This is undoubtedly the biggest news in the fight against COVID since March. If this would have been announced on November 2 I wonder how it would have impacted the election..

LOL you think its coincidental that it gets announced the 1st business day after he gets elected?

[AsherO]

LOL you think its coincidental that it gets announced the 1st business day after he gets elected?

Wasn’t this data released by the pharmaceutical companies? You think they prefer a D in the WH?

[ExGingi]

As predicted by many COVID-19 is ending after the election.

[avromie7]

What percentage of doses will go to waste because they expired past said 24 hour refrigeration? This will especially be a problem if a higher percentage of people than expected won’t trust the vaccine.

I assume in the beginning they'll go to places that can make sure to use 100% of the doses. As time goes on there will be other vaccines that don't need such low temperatures that would be more suitable for rural areas.

Wasn’t this data released by the pharmaceutical companies? You think they prefer a D in the WH?

According to the Pfizer executive or spokesperson on WCBS this morning they received the information from an independent review board yesterday afternoon. It's possible the review board held off on the information for a few days because of the election.