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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #821 on: February 24, 2021, 06:59:59 PM »
Reminds me of Whack-A-Mole

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #822 on: February 24, 2021, 08:11:55 PM »
Very nice. It isnít possible to make a hybrid that includes U.K. , SA, Brazil, LA, etc. variants all all in one?
As long as you have to pay Moderna individually...
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #823 on: February 24, 2021, 08:15:31 PM »
As long as you have to pay Moderna individually...

If they had an omni-variant vaccine then theyíd likely be able to sell as much as they produce for a long while. I wonder if itís a monetary thing like youíre suggesting, or maybe there are scientific/technical development/production issues involved in bringing an omni-variant vaccine to market.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #824 on: February 24, 2021, 08:52:18 PM »
The flu vaccine is 3-4 different vaccines at once and MMR is 3 in 1, so its definitely possible to multiples vaccines in one shot. I don't know if it possible or feasible to do a MRNA vaccine that way.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #825 on: February 24, 2021, 08:53:39 PM »
The flu vaccine is 3-4 different vaccines at once and MMR is 3 in 1, so its definitely possible to multiples vaccines in one shot. I don't know if it possible or feasible to do a MRNA vaccine that way.

mRNA probably has its own pros/cons in this regard, I was specifically talking about Moderna.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #826 on: February 24, 2021, 10:00:21 PM »
FDA says JNJ Vaccine is safe and effective, EUA expected shortly:

https://www.axios.com/johnson-fda-analysis-33162951-9b5d-41e5-8d74-3c9bfdebd87f.html

Efficacy around 66% overall and 85% against serious to critical illness. Seems to have similar efficacy against variants, I wonder what that means.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #827 on: February 25, 2021, 02:13:51 PM »
Very nice. It isnít possible to make a hybrid that includes U.K. , SA, Brazil, LA, etc. variants all all in one?
My understanding is that Moderna submitted to the NIH both a B.1.351 booster and a multivalent
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #828 on: February 25, 2021, 03:30:02 PM »
My understanding is that Moderna submitted to the NIH both a B.1.351 booster and a multivalent

The multivalent m1273.211 is a combination of m1273 and m1273.351 in a single dose. It doesnít address other variants.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #829 on: February 25, 2021, 03:59:17 PM »
The multivalent m1273.211 is a combination of m1273 and m1273.351 in a single dose. It doesnít address other variants.
The others variants don't have documented immune evasion as far as I know
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #830 on: April 18, 2021, 10:16:51 AM »
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/07/29/johns-hopkins-press-conference-coronavirus-pandemic-latest/

Can any places other than China keep up social distancing protocols for another 15 months? Or are we going to continue to see increasing flare-up and waves as countries throw in the towel?
We are just about 9 months out and Itís looking like the end of 2021 is a pretty good bet for much of the Western World- Canada, Europe, etc. with Israel obviously the exception along with possibly the US and UK depending on the vaccination progress. In the third world itís looking like this could easily go well into 2022.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #831 on: April 18, 2021, 10:38:48 AM »
We are just about 9 months out and Itís looking like the end of 2021 is a pretty good bet for much of the Western World- Canada, Europe, etc. with Israel obviously the exception along with possibly the US and UK depending on the vaccination progress. In the third world itís looking like this could easily go well into 2022.
It's still only April. If Canada isn't fully vaccinated by late summer/early fall, there needs to be a national reckoning
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #832 on: April 18, 2021, 10:45:51 AM »
It's still only April. If Canada isn't fully vaccinated by late summer/early fall, there needs to be a national reckoning
Canada needs a national reckoning already now
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #833 on: April 18, 2021, 11:32:00 AM »
It's still only April. If Canada isn't fully vaccinated by late summer/early fall, there needs to be a national reckoning

Unless they fall into an unexpected bounty of vaccinations, they won't be more than half done by fall.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #834 on: April 18, 2021, 03:12:55 PM »
Unless they fall into an unexpected bounty of vaccinations, they won't be more than half done by fall.
my guess is by June or sooner the USA will have more vaccines then they can use.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #835 on: April 18, 2021, 03:22:32 PM »
my guess is by June or sooner the USA will have more vaccines then they can use.

I'd put money on our excess going down south faster than north.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #836 on: April 18, 2021, 03:48:47 PM »
I'd put money on our excess going down south faster than north.
could be, but I would be surprised if at least a portion does not go up north. And they donít need much they are a very small country by population.

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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #837 on: April 18, 2021, 04:26:27 PM »
I'd put money on our excess going down south faster than north.
How far south? Less than 30 days of US supply can cover voluntary vaccinations for both Canada and Mexico.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #838 on: April 18, 2021, 04:28:46 PM »
How far south? Less than 30 days of US supply can cover voluntary vaccinations for both Canada and Mexico.

I'm thinking South America and Africa more than Mexico.
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Re: Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?
« Reply #839 on: April 18, 2021, 05:06:21 PM »
I'm thinking South America and Africa more than Mexico.
So far, unused AZN have been given to Canada & Mexico. They are the most important for US import/export and herd immunity.
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