Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?

[avromie7]

Who said?

Wasn't that part of operation Warp Speed? Are they waiting for approval to ramp up production?

[avromie7]

No matter what, every day that the first doses are not administered those higher risk people remain vulnerable during this (massive) wave. Each day that those initial people are vulnerable will probably cost lives.

So you’re right, it’s probably not 1,500, but it’s significant.

That I'll agree.

[PlatinumGuy]

Boom! UK approved Pfizer vaccine

https://twitter.com/hsjnews/status/1334030602723528704?s=21

[S209]

Boom! UK approved Pfizer vaccine

It’s been almost exactly 4 months since the OP in this thread. Not quite 15 months. Bh!

[yzj]

It’s been almost exactly 4 months since the OP in this thread. Not quite 15 months. Bh!

Bh. Unfortunately this part happened anyway.

Or are we going to continue to see increasing flare-up and waves as countries throw in the towel?

[S209]

Bh. Unfortunately this part happened anyway.

True

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/zacharybrennan/status/1334315047091392518?s=21

[S209]

https://twitter.com/zacharybrennan/status/1334315047091392518?s=21

If they can hire 150 they can hire 1,500

[PlatinumGuy]

If they can hire 150 they can hire 1,500

There’s probably a limited pool of qualified personnel to hire from, but I don’t believe that this actually takes so long. They should’ve started reviewing things before the official submission, and probably did.

[PlatinumGuy]

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2020_q4/Article-a699a9997a92671027.htm

Israel is expecting 4m/2 Pfizer doses this December. They have 40m doses, the US is dysfunctional, Europe isn’t approving until Dec 29 so it’s going to UK & Israel

[S209]

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2020_q4/Article-a699a9997a92671027.htm

Israel is expecting 4m/2 Pfizer doses this December. They have 40m doses, the US is dysfunctional, Europe isn’t approving until Dec 29 so it’s going to UK & Israel

When will Israel allow US citizens in to get the vaccine?

[Lurker]

https://www.mako.co.il/news-lifestyle/2020_q4/Article-a699a9997a92671027.htm

Israel is expecting 4m/2 Pfizer doses this December. They have 40m doses, the US is dysfunctional, Europe isn’t approving until Dec 29 so it’s going to UK & Israel

That's a huge step towards herd immunity in Israel. They could be completely back to normal by Pesach.

[PlatinumGuy]

That's a huge step towards herd immunity in Israel. They could be completely back to normal by Pesach.

2m ppl should be pretty much enough to return to normal

When will Israel allow US citizens in to get the vaccine?

At this rate looks like by February they may have more vaccines than ppl willing to get vaccinated. Remember Israel has the first batch of Moderna’s Swiss production line.

My eyes are on London though, there is talk of allowing private doctors to vaccinate separately than the  NHS sooner rather than later

[Lurker]

2m ppl should be pretty much enough to return to normal.

Not enough to completely open the country to foreigners, and there is no normal in Israel without foreigners.

[yzj]

Not enough to completely open the country to foreigners, and there is no normal in Israel without foreigners.

I would imagine that if you vaccinate the 20% most vulnerable plus the healthcare workers so they can stay on the job that’s a game changer that allows you a lot more latitude to open up to foreigners even if you don’t have full coverage.

[Lurker]

I would imagine that if you vaccinate the 20% most vulnerable plus the healthcare workers so they can stay on the job that’s a game changer that allows you a lot more latitude to open up to foreigners even if you don’t have full coverage.

I'm against the "most vulnerable" approach, but that's not relevant. If the goal is to open up to foreigners, I'd vaccinate the heathcare workers, the airport workers, and prioritize workers in high-traffic tourist spots. That would minimize the effect of foreigners bringing the virus with them.

[Traveler718]

Bad news

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-slashed-its-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-target-after-facing-supply-chain-obstacles-11607027787

[iluv2travel]

That's a huge step towards herd immunity in Israel. They could be completely back to normal by Pesach.

I was getting excited that maybe I'll be able to book! But then you said this 😕:

Not enough to completely open the country to foreigners, and there is no normal in Israel without foreigners.

I guess we still have to take a wait and see approach to see where we get with the vaccines.

[Euclid]

Bad news

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-slashed-its-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-target-after-facing-supply-chain-obstacles-11607027787

And they waited until after the election to report this?!?

😉

[AsherO]

Bad news

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-slashed-its-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-target-after-facing-supply-chain-obstacles-11607027787

Ugh. Why are they calling it "100 million vaccines" by years end if they (likely) mean 100m doses.