Realistic vaccine date- end of 2021?

[Jerseysteve]

GIYF:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/12/22/why-ohio-behind-other-states-administering-covid-vaccines/4013177001/

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/12/ohio-behind-on-vaccine-shipments-but-officials-say-new-doses-on-the-way.html

Thank you - but still progressing very slow - I was hoping to watch Dwine presser today but he decided not to give one. Let us learn from Israel and get the ball rolling we had so much time to prepare for this.

[avromie7]

Thank you - but still progressing very slow - I was hoping to watch Dwine presser today but he decided not to give one. Let us learn from Israel and get the ball rolling we had so much time to prepare for this.

Some of it is a reporting delay.

[Jerseysteve]

It seems to me that everyone should follow Israel and try to mass vaccinate - we should try our best that those who need them should get them first but if a few skip the line but we get many more vaccinated it is worth it.

[PlatinumGuy]

It seems to me that everyone should follow Israel and try to mass vaccinate - we should try our best that those who need them should get them first but if a few skip the line but we get many more vaccinated it is worth it.

+1.

If there is one thing Israel is a global leader on, it's cutting the line...

[avromie7]

It seems to me that everyone should follow Israel and try to mass vaccinate - we should try our best that those who need them should get them first but if a few skip the line but we get many more vaccinated it is worth it.

I disagree, I'd rather see high risk people vaccinated first even if it's 2 weeks after low risk people would otherwise get vaccinated. That being said, the priorities of most states are completely backwards.

[Jerseysteve]

https://www.axios.com/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-december-target-418a9ba7-02e2-417d-b2dc-f552dd9d4f5d.html

[Jerseysteve]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9096267/US-given-2-million-Americans-vaccine-doses.html

[Jerseysteve]

I disagree, I'd rather see high risk people vaccinated first even if it's 2 weeks after low risk people would otherwise get vaccinated. That being said, the priorities of most states are completely backwards.

also add that there is a school of thought that vaccinating the younger people who spread the virus is more beneficial.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/magazine/who-gets-covid-vaccine.html

[PlatinumGuy]

I disagree, I'd rather see high risk people vaccinated first even if it's 2 weeks after low risk people would otherwise get vaccinated. That being said, the priorities of most states are completely backwards.

The two aren't contradictory. If at-risk people will only get vaccinated in 2 weeks anyways, we can vaccinate lower risk people in the meantime. Israel has plenty of vaccinations slots available in the the next 24h for anybody over 60 who is interested. Only 20% of that cohort is already vaccinated but most people just don't move quickly enough. They will go on Friday when it is convenient for them.

The US is placing way too much emphasis that people shouldn't get vaccinated out of order, and it's hurting all of us. It's the type of PC that Trump was supposed to get rid of.

[Afrages6]

The two aren't contradictory. If at-risk people will only get vaccinated in 2 weeks anyways, we can vaccinate lower risk people in the meantime. Israel has plenty of vaccinations slots available in the the next 24h for anybody over 60 who is interested. Only 20% of that cohort is already vaccinated but most people just don't move quickly enough. They will go on Friday when it is convenient for them.

The US is placing way too much emphasis that people shouldn't get vaccinated out of order, and it's hurting all of us. It's the type of PC that Trump was supposed to get rid of.

Can never waste an opportunity to take a shot a Trump huh, if they made it first come first serve you’d be screaming that Trump is a murderer. You make fair points but the invocation of trump at every turn is quite ridiculous

[yzj]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2931EJ

"The effort to distribute and administer the vaccine is not progressing as it should," Biden said in Wilmington, Delaware. At the current rate, "it's going to take years, not months, to vaccinate the American people."

Hyperbole?

Either way, the new variant will likely have quite an impact before a full vaccine rollout has a chance to stop it.

[Jerseysteve]

Adequately vaccinating Americans will take 10 years at current pace

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/current-rate-it-ll-be-10-years-americans-adequately-vaccinated-n1252486

[iluv2travel]

Let's move to Eretz Yisrael. Isn't that where we all belong anyway?

[Jerseysteve]

Can never waste an opportunity to take a shot a Trump huh, if they made it first come first serve you’d be screaming that Trump is a murderer. You make fair points but the invocation of trump at every turn is quite ridiculous

Never hurts to push his buttons - If Trump feels his legacy is on the line he will do what it takes to get things moving. The situation is so disappointing given that there was time to prepare even though the vaccine provides logistical challenges.

[PlatinumGuy]

Let's move to Eretz Yisrael. Isn't that where we all belong anyway?

Depends who you ask

[Jerseysteve]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1344051613216993281

[iluv2travel]

Depends who you ask

So I'm asking you 😉.

I doubt everyone is running there anyway (unless they already had it in their plans or Mashiach comes), but its just shameful that it should even be a discussion that vaccinating will take 10 years. I'm sure it will be faster but we just need to see it happening.

[PlatinumGuy]

So I'm asking you 😉.

Nobody is running there anyway, but its just shameful that it should even be a discussion that it'll take 10 years. I'm sure it will be faster but we just need to see it happening.

Nobody really thinks it will take 10 years, the point is just to illustrate how slow the current rate is.

[avromie7]

The two aren't contradictory. If at-risk people will only get vaccinated in 2 weeks anyways, we can vaccinate lower risk people in the meantime. Israel has plenty of vaccinations slots available in the the next 24h for anybody over 60 who is interested. Only 20% of that cohort is already vaccinated but most people just don't move quickly enough. They will go on Friday when it is convenient for them.

The US is placing way too much emphasis that people shouldn't get vaccinated out of order, and it's hurting all of us. It's the type of PC that Trump was supposed to get rid of.

This is not Israel with 9m residents, soon enough demand (even with the restrictions) will outpace supply. You make it seem like a dose not given today is going in the garbage when in reality it's going to someone on the priority list albeit at a slower pace than ideal so far.

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/rebeccajarvis/status/1344081352547774464?s=21

https://twitter.com/rebeccajarvis/status/1344082031370784773?s=21

https://twitter.com/rebeccajarvis/status/1344086932184309762?s=21

This is not Israel with 9m residents, soon enough demand (even with the restrictions) will outpace supply. You make it seem like a dose not given today is going in the garbage when in reality it's going to someone on the priority list albeit at a slower pace than ideal so far.

You make it seem like a dose given today to a 30yo is a dose taken away from an 80yo, when there are 10s of millions of doses sitting in warehouses.